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For meaties you really need to go with lower protein. The problem is they gain weight too fast (muscle AND fat).. which puts a stress on their hearts and legs

Feeding too high protein content feed to meat birds can cause "flip".. which is preventable to an extent by lowering protein content to 18% (give or take a smidge).. some bloodlines can handle higher protein content (23-24%) better than others.. so it's always a good idea to limit protein to the "broiler" rations once the birds are at 3 pounds body weight .. most are formulated at 20% or less.. I think ours runs 16 or 18%

I find that very, very interesting. I swear each and every one of these studies says differently - but, they also stress the need for certain amino acids and minerals that are generally missing in most commercial starter feeds in the amounts required. Maybe that's part of it? Berry, berry interesting **makes notes and goes to dig around some more**
 
in my email today: Iduma Bird Auction.. this Sunday!


"Just a quick reminder about the sale this Sunday, April 14, 2013.

I am finally back from Costa Rica and really looking forward to seeing everyone again, catching up and sharing some of my adventures with you!


This sale is already shaping up nicely. We have had several calls and have the following already consigned:


Rozella

peacocks
bantams
doves - both white and ringneck
baby geese
baby ducks
pigeons - all different makes and models
Rio Grande & Bourbon Turkeys.....

As always we should also have a good selection of pheasants game birds, exotic chickens, ducks, geese, pheasants, small animals, etc.


Look forward to seeing you there!


Rocky


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Iduma Small Bird & Animal Auction
1362 Briggs Road
Killeen, Texas 76549
254.289.3304 or 254.793.2958
www.idumasale.com
Auctioneer: Clyde (Rocky) Castleberry #11629 "
 
in my email today: Iduma Bird Auction.. this Sunday!


"Just a quick reminder about the sale this Sunday, April 14, 2013.

I am finally back from Costa Rica and really looking forward to seeing everyone again, catching up and sharing some of my adventures with you!


This sale is already shaping up nicely. We have had several calls and have the following already consigned:


Rozella

peacocks
bantams
doves - both white and ringneck
baby geese
baby ducks
pigeons - all different makes and models
Rio Grande & Bourbon Turkeys.....

As always we should also have a good selection of pheasants game birds, exotic chickens, ducks, geese, pheasants, small animals, etc.


Look forward to seeing you there!


Rocky


--
Iduma Small Bird & Animal Auction
1362 Briggs Road
Killeen, Texas 76549
254.289.3304 or 254.793.2958
www.idumasale.com
Auctioneer: Clyde (Rocky) Castleberry #11629 "



Enabler alert!!!
 
Add in some kefir/yogurt if you want. The probiotics will help ensure they get the most nutritional bang for the buck. And, if you are giving them scratch, you can mix up your own or use a fine cracked scratch and add mealworms.

The additional proteins ensure that you aren't getting just fat - it encourages muscle production. You could also look into fermenting your feed; but, that's a whole other kettle of fish and does take more time than just putting crumbles in the feed bin.
I mix my own scratch. What was available here after this one feed store went out of business was mostly dust and I got sick of it. Finally found a feed store that was willing to order some wheat for me for the scratch mix. Only bad thing was I was hoping to also sprout the wheat but it won't sprout for anything. Think they must've treated the wheat with something to prevent sprouting since some people don't want stuff sprouting when it falls on the ground.
 
"Chicken Coop Tour"
Hello Everyone, Mark your calendar for April 20th!!! This is the third annual Chicken Coop Tour in Wise County, Texas. It's called the "Wise Chicks Coop Tour". It's Hosted by the Decatur Main Street Program. This is a FREE self guided tour and an opportunity to see various chicken coops in the North Texas area. Take this opportunity to speak with coop owners and share helpful information about raising chickens. There will be a wide range of different breeds of poultry along with various types of coops. Some Coop owners will also have on display Organic Gardening, Composting, Bee-Keeping and Certified Wildlife. The event starts at 10:00 am on the Historical Decatur Square and ends at 2:00 pm. For more information, please go to http://www.wisechickscooptour.com/ or google "Wise Chicks Coop Tour". Hope to see you all there!!!
 
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I am finally back from Costa Rica and really looking forward to seeing everyone again, catching up and sharing some of my adventures with you!


This sale is already shaping up nicely. We have had several calls and have the following already consigned:


Rozella

peacocks
bantams
doves - both white and ringneck
baby geese
baby ducks
pigeons - all different makes and models
Rio Grande & Bourbon Turkeys.....

As always we should also have a good selection of pheasants game birds, exotic chickens, ducks, geese, pheasants, small animals, etc.


Look forward to seeing you there!


Rocky


--
Iduma Small Bird & Animal Auction
1362 Briggs Road
Killeen, Texas 76549
254.289.3304 or 254.793.2958
www.idumasale.com
Auctioneer: Clyde (Rocky) Castleberry #11629 "



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hey now.. i resemble that comment!!

besides.. we might go to look at goslings and ducklings ... lol (need some people to bid against me so I don't buy too many!)
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I find that very, very interesting. I swear each and every one of these studies says differently - but, they also stress the need for certain amino acids and minerals that are generally missing in most commercial starter feeds in the amounts required. Maybe that's part of it? Berry, berry interesting **makes notes and goes to dig around some more**
Yep, there are studies about anything and everything that contradict each other. Makes me crazy sometimes. I know I've seen what yinepu says about too much protein, but I've also seen a lot of stuff about dual purpose birds and meat birds requiring more protein than the average chicken. Have also seen some serious breeders that say that free-feeding and high protein makes birds to fat and they don't lay as well so they do lower protein and strictly measure the amount each bird gets.

From our research and experience, we go with higher protein for our dual purpose birds. They have access to feed all the time and we have not found "fat" birds or ill birds because of high protein levels
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. Their legs are huge and well able to handle weight even when they are landing on their legs when jumping and flying. We feed everyone quail/turkey starter feed from TSC since it's been the highest non-vegetarian protein content available that we can find here. Also supplement with game bird conditioner, grains/homemade scratch, and calf manna. Just butchered a couple of 10 month old cockerels, one dressed out at 5.5 lbs and the other at 4.5 lbs. Some good appropriate fat on them, but no excessive fat.

The only thing that was "abnormal" that hubby noticed when dressing them was the GIANT testicles. They were cockerels that we decided not to breed from. One of the problems was that they were VERY vigorous and just too rough with the females. They couldn't even get along with other males living in a bachelor house away from females. Ended up with the bachelor house looking like a murder scene so decided not to bother trying to keep them at all. After seeing the size of their testicles compared to the testicles of other ones that have been butchered, we figured they had way too much testosterone running in them. They were some pretty birds though. They are currently brining in the frig.
 
Pulled an amazing stunt today. I tripped over one of our giant rocks in the chicken coop, managed to grab the chick I was about to fall on, twisted so I wouldn't land on the baby, and fell. The chick is doing great besides griping at me for startling it. I peeled my elbow, tore up my calf, bruised my hip, and I think I sprang my wrist. Hurts real bad to move it but I can move it.
 
Pulled an amazing stunt today. I tripped over one of our giant rocks in the chicken coop, managed to grab the chick I was about to fall on, twisted so I wouldn't land on the baby, and fell. The chick is doing great besides griping at me for startling it. I peeled my elbow, tore up my calf, bruised my hip, and I think I sprang my wrist. Hurts real bad to move it but I can move it.
Ow! The things we do to keep from hurting the animals. Don't forget Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation for the wrist.
 

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