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Hello everyone ! Have been lurking awhile and finally took the time to join. This is my first try at chickens, so far I have learned an enormous amount of info. I see a few of my neighbors here too.
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I know it's been on here before but I keep forgetting to write things down & my mind is not too good :th
Can I brine a chicken that is already frozen & now thawing & what is the best formula? Hope everyone is having a good Labor Day. We're BBQing ribs from pigs & sheep we raised & put in the freezer. :)
 
Yes I would love to know too! Its funny how a childhood experience can color how you feel about something like that, years later!


Here is a little shotgun 101. To understand why a gun kicks, you have to understand the dynamic of a loaded shell. When you fire a loaded shell in a gun you are simply detonating a controlled explosion in which there is only one exit (the barrel). But that exit (the barrel) is block by a heavy object (the bullet). The explosion desires to be released and is pushing against the bullet and propelling it down the barrel. If it did this slowly, there would be no kick, but because it is doing it extremely fast it creates a lot of back pressure in the reverse direction of which the bullet is traveling. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. So the pressure is pushing as hard backwards as it is forward. This back pressure is delivered to the gun, which in turn is delivered to your shoulder. The larger the explosion ( size of the loaded shell) the harder the back pressure. This is why a 12 gauge kicks harder then a 20 gauge. But the design and type of the gun also play an important part in how much back pressure is delivered to your shoulder. How you hold the gun is of even more vital importance. How you hold the gun is the difference between whether you just feel a kick or you end up severely bruised.

Break over long guns (rifles or shotguns) are going to kick the hardest because they deliver almost 100% of the back pressure to you. The only back pressure that is not delivered to you is that which is absorbed by the weight of gun. Cheaper break over long guns are often made with less steel (to save money) and they are therefore lighter which makes them kick even harder. So if you are going to shoot a break over, find the heaviest one you can buy.

Blot action and pump shotguns also kick hard, but because they employ a lot more parts, they are usually heavier and this makes them kick less hard then break over long guns.

Semi autos kick less harder then break overs, bolt actions and pumps. The reason they kick harder is two reasons. 1. there generally heavier, and 2. When the shell explodes, part of the energy created by the explosion is used to eject the shell from the gun. The shell is not pushing directly against the gun as it does in break overs, bolt actions and pumps. When the explosion happens, the shell pushes against the bolt, pushing it backwards. So some of the back pressures is absorbed by the bolt which has a spring that absorbs the impact. In some guns, gasses (created by the explosion) are also employed to create a gas cushion which further reduces the kick.

There is a huge difference between semi autos and how much they kick. Really expensive 12 gauge shotguns like those made by Benelli are known for how little they kick. Stoeger makes a knock off of the Benelli which is just as good for 1/3 the price.

I hope this help.
 
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Here is a little shotgun 101. To understand why a gun kicks, you have to understand the dynamic of a loaded shell. When you fire a loaded shell in a gun you are simply detonating a controlled explosion in which there is only one exit (the barrel). But that exit (the barrel) is block by a heavy object (the bullet). The explosion desires to be released and is pushing against the bullet and propelling it down the barrel. If it did this slowly, there would be no kick, but because it is doing it extremely fast it creates a lot of back pressure in the reverse direction of which the bullet is traveling. This back pressure is delivered to the gun, which in turn is delivered to your shoulder. The larger the explosion ( size of the loaded shell) the harder the back pressure. This is why a 12 gauge kicks harder then a 20 gauge. But the design and type of the gun also play an important part in how much back pressure is delivered to your shoulder. How you hold the gun is of even more vital importance. How you hold the gun is the difference between whether you just feel a kick or you end up severely bruised.

Break over long guns (rifles or shotguns) are going to kick the hardest because they deliver almost 100% of the back pressure to you. The only back pressure that is not delivered to you is that which is absorbed by the weight of gun. Cheaper break over long guns are often made with less steel (to save money) and they are therefore lighter which makes them kick even harder. So if you are going to shoot a break over, find the heaviest one you can buy.

Blot action and pump shotguns also kick hard, but because they employ a lot more parts, they are usually heavier and this makes them kick less hard then break over long guns.

Semi autos kick less harder then break overs, bolt actions and pumps. The reason they kick harder is two reason. 1. When the shell explodes, part of the energy created by the explosion to eject the shell from the gun. The shell is not pushing directly against the gun as it does in break overs, bolt actions and pumps. When the explosion happens, the shell pushes against the bolt pushing it backwards. So the some of the back pressures is absorbed by the bolt which as a spring that absorbs the impact. In some guns, gasses are also employed to create a gas cushion which further reduces the kick.

There is a huge difference between semi autos and how much they kick. Really expensive 12 gauge shotguns like those made by Benelli are know for how little they kick. Stoeger makes a knock off of the Benelli which is just as good for 1/3 the price.

I hope this help.
Thank you for the information! My 'break over' was bought back in the '30s. My Dad received it from his grandfather and I was lucky to get it from my Dad. A lot of good memories with that gun.

Lisa :)
 
Here is a little shotgun 101. To understand why a gun kicks, you have to understand the dynamic of a loaded shell. When you fire a loaded shell in a gun you are simply detonating a controlled explosion in which there is only one exit (the barrel). But that exit (the barrel) is block by a heavy object (the bullet). The explosion desires to be released and is pushing against the bullet and propelling it down the barrel. If it did this slowly, there would be no kick, but because it is doing it extremely fast it creates a lot of back pressure in the reverse direction of which the bullet is traveling. This back pressure is delivered to the gun, which in turn is delivered to your shoulder. The larger the explosion ( size of the loaded shell) the harder the back pressure. This is why a 12 gauge kicks harder then a 20 gauge. But the design and type of the gun also play an important part in how much back pressure is delivered to your shoulder. How you hold the gun is of even more vital importance. How you hold the gun is the difference between whether you just feel a kick or you end up severely bruised.

Break over long guns (rifles or shotguns) are going to kick the hardest because they deliver almost 100% of the back pressure to you. The only back pressure that is not delivered to you is that which is absorbed by the weight of gun. Cheaper break over long guns are often made with less steel (to save money) and they are therefore lighter which makes them kick even harder. So if you are going to shoot a break over, find the heaviest one you can buy.

Blot action and pump shotguns also kick hard, but because they employ a lot more parts, they are usually heavier and this makes them kick less hard then break over long guns.

Semi autos kick less harder then break overs, bolt actions and pumps. The reason they kick harder is two reason. 1. When the shell explodes, part of the energy created by the explosion to eject the shell from the gun. The shell is not pushing directly against the gun as it does in break overs, bolt actions and pumps. When the explosion happens, the shell pushes against the bolt pushing it backwards. So the some of the back pressures is absorbed by the bolt which as a spring that absorbs the impact. In some guns, gasses are also employed to create a gas cushion which further reduces the kick.

There is a huge difference between semi autos and how much they kick. Really expensive 12 gauge shotguns like those made by Benelli are know for how little they kick. Stoeger makes a knock off of the Benelli which is just as good for 1/3 the price.

I hope this help.
I realize all this lol. I do have a chemistry degree with a minor in physics, though it is pretty much useless as a stay at home mom
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....I just was hoping to find something not as expensive, because I am a cheapskate. And I do still remember with fear the first time I shot my dad's 12 gauge. And even when I shot a good gun that doesn't kick, like my own 03-A3, I still get that twinge, though at least I don't tense up anymore. Never had that problem with pistols, and have never had a problem anticipating the recoil. Thank you for the advice on the Stoeger; I have a Stoeger 9mm that has always been a fine shooting pistol, and will eat any ammo without a hitch!
 
Thank you for the information! My 'break over' was bought back in the '30s. My Dad received it from his grandfather and I was lucky to get it from my Dad. A lot of good memories with that gun.

Lisa :)
Is that bad when all your best memories involve guns and hunting? My own son loves to hunt an fish, and seems to be a natural shot, lucky little guy. My father in law is fantastic with a rifle and says my son did every thing you are taught to do without being told, but instinct.
 
I know it's been on here before but I keep forgetting to write things down & my mind is not too good
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Can I brine a chicken that is already frozen & now thawing & what is the best formula? Hope everyone is having a good Labor Day. We're BBQing ribs from pigs & sheep we raised & put in the freezer.
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My husband uses a cup of salt to a gallon of water, and then add whatever seasoning you want to add as well, depending on how much time you have to soak.
 

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