Thanks Ron. I have 2 large Premier ones and 1 small one and I LOVE them. The ecoglow was the first one I got and it has had several leg problems. They have already replaced it once. From now on I'm sticking with the premier one plates. I really like the small one I just got. It fits in my brooder better. I also got the nipple drinker they just put in the catalog that sits on top of the brooder plate. The chicks started using it at 2 days old. Sitting on top of the brooder plate keeps it warm and it stays clean. Somebody at Premier one is thinking!