The American Paint Silkie

[moomoodiddy]

hey yall ive read on here that people have discovered paints that develop spotts layer i have also had this in some of my paints is this something to cull for or is it desired? thanx!!!

 

[SonRise Silkies]

HI! Why would you want to cull a bird for getting spots when spots where what you are after in the first place???
Cull for type and quality.
The spots don't just suddenly appear, they are there all along, if you are there when the bird hatches and he is still wet you can clearly see the spots and where and how many, after the chick dries you might have a white bird, but it is going to change......how many of the spots come through real brightly is another thing.
Like a "white" Appaloosa horse, soak him down and you will sometimes see an extremely spotted horse.
One main difference here is that the horse will have pink and black skin the Paint Silkie will have darker spots on dark skin and NOT [or should not] have pink skin.
Hope this makes sense and helps.

 

[moomoodiddy]

so all paint silkies develop thier spots later cause some people on here say theirs was born with all spots and some develop their spots later i was just wonderin which is most desirable

 

[hoppy]

I do not breed from birds that develop spots later in my own breeding program. i have found those that are late spotters don't have as bold spotting as those that hatch spotted. I also would keep a bird that has better type over poor spotting. the genes are there but need work.

so all paint silkies develop thier spots later cause some people on here say theirs was born with all spots and some develop their spots later i was just wonderin which is most desirable

 

[dwegg]

Yes I agree...the limited paints I have hatched from different pairings I have found that the 'loud' spotted paints had noticble black spots at hatch...others looked white till their feathers come through but their spots are not as good...

 

[SonRise Silkies]

Yes I agree...the limited paints I have hatched from different pairings I have found that the 'loud' spotted paints had noticble black spots at hatch...others looked white till their feathers come through but their spots are not as good...

I agree with these last posts...the ones born with good spots seem to have much more contrast. But I have hatched some with moderate spotting that later were cover nearly half and half with color but not as vivid.
Type and quality are of the uppermost importantance, hatching a good colored chick is always a delight but color is not the most important thing to be focused on.
Of course some breeders are working with superior stock and trying to put more color on, they don't have to worry about the toes or type or the other things that make a Silkie a good Silkie.
If breeding "not so good" stock just for color you will always lose no matter what kind of color you manage to produce.
Anything bred specifically for color [or any other ONE trait] will eventually lose not only quality but also favor with breeders, as well as hobbyists. Even if it is dogs, horses, chickens, whatever.
UNLESS breeders are working really hard at keeping all the very good traits in their program as well as the color.
Many breeders are doing this and accomplishing this. Thank God for them and the dedication they put into their work.

 

[moomoodiddy]

Ok so i shouldnt use later spotting birds good thats what i thought thanx yall!!!!!

 

[dwegg]

Yes totally agree and novices like myself need to remember that...you can't just breed anything and say..hey I have paints!

My avatar is a paint but very diluted spots barely noticble and also her sister who has lots of orange frosting (which I love) and soft spots also...but they both have great type (I think)...
And I have just hatched 7 babies from both and these are very fluffy, big top knots and cheeks...so I think the type is going to be there and I have just noticed faint black spots coming in as their feathers do but they are not loud paints like their moms...

On the other hand...the chicks I posted before have very loud spots but their mom I sold (black hen) had light eyes and not a large crest...these chicks also have light eyes so not good...at least there is only two of them...one male, one female

 

[Fur N Feathers]

yes i think a girl...

Thanks Dwegg!!! I'm keeping either way

, I really like the typiness I think she has.

 

[Muzzie]

I have a khaki bird from a paint pullet and a blue roo the chick hatched white and there seems to be a faint spot on the shoulder. What is causing the khaki coloring and should the khaki birds be removed from the breeding stock. The chick i'm positive is a rooster it's 4 1/2 months old now.