The American Paint Silkie

[Sonoran Silkies]

Yes totally agree and novices like myself need to remember that...you can't just breed anything and say..hey I have paints!
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I have a khaki bird from a paint pullet and a blue roo the chick hatched white and there seems to be a faint spot on the shoulder. What is causing the khaki coloring and should the khaki birds be removed from the breeding stock. The chick i'm positive is a rooster it's 4 1/2 months old now.

Khaki requires two copies of the dun gene. The off-coloured paints are not khaki. Khaki is a dilution of eumelanin (black pigment); the off colouring background in paints is pheomelanin (red pigment). A khaki paint would have pale khaki spots, just as a blue paint has blue spots.

 

[Muzzie]

Khaki requires two copies of the dun gene. The off-coloured paints are not khaki. Khaki is a dilution of eumelanin (black pigment); the off colouring background in paints is pheomelanin (red pigment). A khaki paint would have pale khaki spots, just as a blue paint has blue spots.

Ok Sonora he doesn't have khaki spots it's more like a male pattern collar and on his back. There are two roosters in the pen a black and the blue. The blue is the dominant rooster. So this is an off color his base color is white with the frosting of taupe coloring and I do see a dark not sure if it's black or a blue spot on his shoulder. Would a picture help

 

[Muzzie]

He wouldn't stand still for the picture acted like I was going to kill him, sorry they are a bit blurry but you can see the coloring anyway.
Thanks Sonora

 

[hoppy]

this is a very common color in paints. you can try to breed it out. breed these birds to your best blacks or whites, cleans up the color. I have found most of mine with this color are boys but I do have 1 girl with this color and no spots. I am using this color to make a solid tan (champagne) .

He wouldn't stand still for the picture acted like I was going to kill him, sorry they are a bit blurry but you can see the coloring anyway.
Thanks Sonora

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

this is a very common color in paints. you can try to breed it out. breed these birds to your best blacks or whites, cleans up the color. I have found most of mine with this color are boys but I do have 1 girl with this color and no spots. I am using this color to make a solid tan (champagne) .
Quote: Yep. Exactly.

 

[Fur N Feathers]

You paint guys, I would really like to show this little girl. Do you think she is good enough? She will be 5 months old on the 19th.

Also, is she a blue paint? One of you suggested she might be in an earlier post. She did not have the "loud" spots like some on here, but she has had her spots since drying off after hatch. The spot on the back side of her head is really black but the rest aren't that black. Can a paint have two different colors of spots like that? I know she would be AOV but from a breeding aspect is this less desirable?


She's in the front still wet from hatch. I thought she was ugly, but became my favorite of this batch.

 

[dwegg]

I really like her but we can't see her wings or feet...and what is her 'type' like? At the shows i have been at they still look for the silkie 'type' and paint markings second as I can see...I like her crest and fullness...does she hold her tail up?

Are her wings long? or not holding them tight against her? that would be my concern...but i think she looks nice....some other more experienced people can chime in....

 

[Fur N Feathers]

I really like her but we can't see her wings or feet...and what is her 'type' like? At the shows i have been at they still look for the silkie 'type' and paint markings second as I can see...I like her crest and fullness...does she hold her tail up?

Are her wings long? or not holding them tight against her? that would be my concern...but i think she looks nice....some other more experienced people can chime in....

Thanks Dwegg! I'll try to get some pictures of wings and feet specifically for you to check. She does have some long feathers in her wings though they are not as visible now because she is "tucking" them in more now (does that make sense?). She has the dark paint feathers on both wings. She has beautiful five toed feet that seem to be getting fluffier the older she gets and dark skin and eyes. I am still very much in learning stage. Someone on the regular silkie thread thinks she is a boy because she has a boy beak. Would that be a fault for a pullet?

 

[dwegg]

I am going to bet that she is defiantly not a boy...I can not tell the difference between beaks myself...but that is not a boy! The last two shows I was at I saw the most amazing looking silkies and they looked big to me but they were the best silkies I had ever seen...these were paints and splash (which some looked like paints)...but big and fluffy and amazing...made my splashlook second rate at best next to them....






this is one of the paints I kept who looks beautiful but as she got older she was not as great as I hoped...still love her and super friendly but has light eyes and her crest is not as good as it should be...

 

[Fur N Feathers]

I am going to bet that she is defiantly not a boy...I can not tell the difference between beaks myself...but that is not a boy! The last two shows I was at I saw the most amazing looking silkies and they looked big to me but they were the best silkies I had ever seen...these were paints and splash (which some looked like paints)...but big and fluffy and amazing...made my splashlook second rate at best next to them....






this is one of the paints I kept who looks beautiful but as she got older she was not as great as I hoped...still love her and super friendly but has light eyes and her crest is not as good as it should be...

Oh wow, I think your girl is gorgeous!!! Would she be counted down for lighter eyes, and her crest looks so good to me? I guess I have a LOT more left to learn.

I am not a good judge of beaks. I do have a pretty good percentage of guessing girls and boys though. I have said she was female since hatched.

I took more pictures this afternoon for the things you mentioned. I think she holds her tail up pretty well. Maybe you can tell more about her wings in these side shots. Her eyes are dark (no spots) as is all exposed skin. I think her crest and her cushion are really good for her age. I have a rotator cuff tear in my right shoulder and I am right handed so I can't really get any "pick her up" pictures, but if you need that kind I can get DH to hold her tomorrow. Sorry she is so dirty, but one of these days I will give her a nice bath and blow dry. I can just imagine how fluffy she will be then!!!

I really love her lots and hope she is as good I think she is.