The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

[Blessedandfruitful]

It will be hard to get away from the solid color. Technically bbs can be treated as black. Breed to a patterned bird and continue from there but using the offspring. Bbs alone to another color won't give you much but leaky bbs.

If you can use the chicken calculator it will help guide you in a direction.

If I already have a wide variety of feathered hens. Than what rooster color would be most recessive or great complementer?

 

[NatJ]

If I already have a wide variety of feathered hens. Than what rooster color would be most recessive or great complementer?

A Rhode Island Red rooster can be a good choice, any other of the black-tailed red chickens (New Hampshire, Production Red, Buckeye)

The genes for that color and pattern are mostly recessive ones.

 

[Blessedandfruitful]

A Rhode Island Red rooster can be a good choice, any other of the black-tailed red chickens (New Hampshire, Production Red, Buckeye)

The genes for that color and pattern are mostly recessive ones.

Oh awesome!! I’ll have to look into those. Thank you

Was just thinking today. Have always liked Mosaic. How would those genes work compared to BBS?

 

[NatJ]

Oh awesome!! I’ll have to look into those. Thank you

Was just thinking today. Have always liked Mosaic. How would those genes work compared to BBS?

Short answer: black chicks and blue chicks with various amounts of silver/white leakage or possibly gold/red leakage.

Longer answer:

The blue gene (Blue and Splash) will affect any feathers that would otherwise be black.

The genes for a solid black chicken are dominant over most of the other color & pattern genes in chickens. So if the BBS chickens have the genes to be solid black (with some turned to blue or splash), then their chicks will probably also show solid colors of black or blue.

But "solid black" chickens (BBS) can show various amounts of leakage (other colors) in some cases, especially if one parent has a pattern with lots of gold or silver and little or no black. Crossing with Mosaics might make this happen, so you could get black and blue chicks show some leakage of silver (white) or gold (red/yellow/brown).

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/buff-black-orpington-cross.578080/page-2#post-7974557
This post shows some "black" chickens with very extensive leakage. One parent was a Buff Orpington, which is supposed to have no visible black at all, so the chicks inherited many genes that restrict black.

 

[RememberTheWay]

@NatJ can you explain to me how one would go about "creating" from scratch a mill fleur patterned satin? Even if it took several generations? I am considering starting a showgirl project. I currently have black satin showgirls and probably recessive white silkied showgirls. I have a red silkie roo. As well as MF d'uccle mixes, mottled on buff/gold d'uccle mixes, MF d'uccle x Serama and MF bantam Cochins. I am mostly just wanting to intellectually understand how this color is creating and what the different breeding plans would look like in reality. Not detailed just basic overall color to color and what generation crossed with what. Also have a mottled houdan roo if that would work at all

Thanks in advance

 

[nicalandia]

@NatJ can you explain to me how one would go about "creating" from scratch a mill fleur patterned satin? Even if it took several generations? I am considering starting a showgirl project. I currently have black satin showgirls and probably recessive white silkied showgirls. I have a red silkie roo. As well as MF d'uccle mixes, mottled on buff/gold d'uccle mixes, MF d'uccle x Serama and MF bantam Cochins. I am mostly just wanting to intellectually understand how this color is creating and what the different breeding plans would look like in reality. Not detailed just basic overall color to color and what generation crossed with what. Also have a mottled houdan roo if that would work at all

Thanks in advance

Millie Fleur is partridge(eb) gold based(s+/) Columbian(Co) with recessive mottling. Have you used The chicken calculator before?

https://kippenjungle.nl/chickencalculator.html

 

[Amer]

Nicalandia is back!

 

[NagemTX]

Nicalandia is back!

I know right!

 

[RememberTheWay]

Millie Fleur is partridge(eb) gold based(s+/) Columbian(Co) with recessive mottling. Have you used The chicken calculator before?

https://kippenjungle.nl/chickencalculator.html

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I have attempted to use it, but my brain doesn't compute the symbols for the genes yet. I need a reference sheet with a visual image of the actual gene on real life examples so I can start to actually "file" away what each abbreviation actually means. So when I use the calculator because I don't actually know what most of the stuff means, looks like, etc I can't really effectively use it

I have been looking for and asking around for some kind of reference sheet for all the genes but so far have not been successful in finding what I am looking for. I am a very visual learner so what I would really benefit from is something that said the laymen's term•the symbol•then several real photos of that gene expressing on different breeds

 

[SourRoses]

So glad to see you're back, @nicalandia

Is this true?
An expert in a FB group said that to get Fibro from mixed breeding, the other parent has to have slate shanks.

As a sex-linked recessive, would all the sons of a fibro hen crossed with a white shanked rooster be carrying 1 copy of Fibro?
Or just some of them?
Am I better off crossing the fibro hen with a slate shanked rooster?
* for blue ears breeding, not super black skin.

@NatJ I would appreciate your input as well, if your computer is cooperating?