The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

[Amer]

I often ponder why some people just don't get chicken genetics, even the basics. But I also struggle with basic human interactions, so I supposed many of us have different strengths and weakness when it comes to different aspects of life.

I often ponder it as well. To me every gene just has an effect and if you know what that effect is it works that way no matter where you find it. Personally, I don't struggle with the social aspect, but anything with moving parts scares me.

 

[SourRoses]

Fibromelanotic is an Autosomal Dominant gene designated Fm, pure breeds like Ayam Cemani and Silkie have two copies of Fm, so they are Fm/Fm and while Fibromelanosis is Autosomal it requires the recessive sex link dermal enhancer id+(recessive and wildtype)

In order to get all black/Dark skin progeny from a Silkie cross you need the other breed to have dark shanks because this means that they have the wildtype recessive sex link id+ mutation.

Let me give you some description:

White/Yellow rooster mated with a Silkie hen: All F1 chicks will inherit one copy of it's dad Dominant Sex Linked Dermal Inhibitor Id from dad and all of them will inherit a copy of Fibromelanosis from mother so all of them are Id/id+ Fm/fm+ males(light skin, non-fibro), females will be Id/-, Fm/fm+(Light skin, non-fibro).

Silkie/Cemani Rooster mated with a White/Yello Shank Hen: Males will be Id/id+, Fm/fm+(Light skin, non-fibro). Females will be id+/-, Fm/fm+(Dark skin, Fibro)

Silkie/Cemani Rooster mated with a Dark Shank hen: Males id+/id+ Fm/fm+(Fibro). Females id+/-, Fm/fm+(Fibro).

Thank you, I really appreciate the in-depth answer.

I often ponder why some people just don't get chicken genetics, even the basics. But I also struggle with basic human interactions, so I supposed many of us have different strengths and weakness when it comes to different aspects of life.

Spoiler because it's OT and rambling and I almost deleted it:

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It was a curious thing to me when I realized struggle with some of the genetics... because I'm usually very good with abstract concepts and connections. I usually remember everything I read, so I just expected genetics to come easy.
But for my brain, it reacts to the abbreviations / symbols as if there's math involved, same as it did with programming and with musical instruments.

Dr. Dario Nardi did EEG studies at Berkley on the matter of personality type (MBTI / Jungian functions) and brain region use. His book "Neuroscience of Personality" is really good.
For example; my type doesn't use the critical thinking / executive decision area very well, which is associated with mathematics and empirical data.
Instead, mine uses the moral processing region of the forebrain, language composition, and internal imagery as some strengths... and using any kind of sensory awareness is a major weakness.
Dr. Nardi managed to prove that type has an average 80% correlation with EEG patterns, but every brain is also unique. He does a counseling service now where you buy the EEG equipment yourself (home models are now about the cost of really good headphones) and he analyzes the information and the persons responses and concerns to provide tailored counseling. I totally would have done it if I could afford it.

To me, typology / personality systems are helpful because I used to think everyone who thought differently to me was lacking. It's not a flattering thing to admit, but I learned otherwise. There are just many different kinds of intelligence, and the further away they are from my grasp the less valuable they may seem, but that was my bias, not the truth.

With breeding chickens, I've found it helpful to just start, and learn as I go. So, the exact opposite of how I would try to learn anything else. At least because I can ask you guys, or find myself corrected if I say something wrong.
Some parts are simple and easy... like recessives. The sexlinked recessives and incomplete whatever's feel like they're just changing the rules around to be naughty.

 

[Amer]

What are your favorite color varieties, @nicalandia?

 

[nicalandia]

What are your favorite color varieties, @nicalandia?

Red Shoulder Yokohama, Beige, Dark Red Barred(Single Barring, True Barring not cuckoo), Silver Birchen based Autosomal Barring

 

[nicalandia]

 

[Amer]

Red Shoulder Yokohama, Beige, Dark Red Barred(Single Barring, True Barring not cuckoo), Silver Birchen based Autosomal Barring

Red Shoulder and Autosomal barring are magnificent. I have joked with my friend about how Beige is two of the most boring colors mixed together… But somehow… I actually like it more than either chocolate or dun for some reason. It’s kind of a mushroom color. Sort of pinkish. I do wonder what it would look like on non-Silkie feathers, however. I imagine very uneven.

 

[NagemTX]

Those are very beautiful! They make me love the baring when I otherwise don't like it.

 

[nicalandia]

I do wonder what it would look like on non-Silkie feathers, however. I imagine very uneven.

Unlike blue, Sex Linked Chocolate and Dun produce a pretty even shades on Extended Black

 

[nicalandia]

 

[Amer]

Unlike blue, Sex Linked Chocolate and Dun produce a pretty even shades on Extended Black

Only through selection, and in my experience, chocolate fades about a month after molting. No huge surprise for a TYPR1 mutation.
I had a chocolate turkey once. A lot of duns look like off-black, too.