The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

[Amer]

Got this girl out of Dusty an EE bantam rooster that looked to be Golden blue duckwing and a silver Phoenix hen.

Dusty
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One of Dustys daughters.
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Alot of his offspring have the dark heads. I suspect he may be berchin as well. A few of the offspring females look silver berchin.

That is impossible though, as birchen is dominant and he is clearly duckwing. Maybe another rooster or hen is responsible.

 

[NagemTX]

That is impossible though, as birchen is dominant and he is clearly duckwing. Maybe another rooster or hen is responsible.

Not that I know of. They have the muffs and split pea comb. He has that and the others that have that are either lavender pure Ameraucana. They where separate for over 3 months before I got eggs. The ones that look birchen are not out of the Phoenix.

The ones out of him and the d'uccle hen seem to all be columbian. Either silver or gold.

Off the top of my head birchen should not override wild type duckwing right? There may be one hen that is berchin. I'll go through them this weekend and get good pictures of the hens.

 

[NagemTX]

That has to be it. The one hen that lays blue eggs that was out of a mixed color bantam Ameraucana group is blue with a golden neck. That's where those two silver berchin pullets had to come from.

All the ones out of the Phoenix hens look duckwing except some have dark heads and the one overly dark looking pullet.

 

[wrathsfarm]

Wow, what a great thread @nicalandia thank you for providing all this valuable info..

I have a question about my Black Copper Marans. I've gotten 2 separate hens that's thrown chicks with a copper head spot at hatch in my test matings this year.
I've read and been told by members here that this is a sign of purity in BCMs and that I should leg band and watch.
But I haven't been able to get any other info as in the genetics behind it, or the why.
Any info you could provide would be much appreciated.


For details my original 5 BCMs are hatchery birds. The rooster I'm test mating is over colored in the chest with 1 of the hens being all black (Betty) and the other is almost all black (Black) with just minimal copper in hopes to fix his progeny's coloring.
Another question also with this 1st hen that's all black (Betty) I'm seeing extremely mossy pullets.

Here's pics of both the head spot male from Betty and mossy pullets.
What's causing this?

I have no back history for parentage being hatchery stock.


Cockerel from Betty

Pullets from Betty

This one of 2 hatched from Black yesterday. Bad photos I realize if you cant see the head spot I can get better ones. So I'm yet to find out what the genders are and if I'll see any mossiness appear.

Thank you once again for any insight.

 

[NagemTX]

I think the advice I took somewhere else had confused me or is causing confusion. They said he could be hiding other things and while that's true if they are recessive but wouldn't be true if they are dominant because it would cover the duckwing.

*Head shake* Was also told not to breed him because he's a shirty mutt and I wouldn't get what I want out him. I should be more careful and return back to what I know instead of taking everything I hear at face value.

I know quite alot of what his flaws where pertaining to trying to get his coloring over on SOP birds. Would have been working on leg coloring, beards and muffs, combs, some body type and blue eggs. Ugh second guessing what I had come up with already.

 

[phasianidae]

Got this girl out of Dusty an EE bantam rooster that looked to be Golden blue duckwing and a silver Phoenix hen.

Dusty
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One of Dustys daughters.
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Alot of his offspring have the dark heads. I suspect he may be berchin as well. A few of the offspring females look silver berchin.

I don't think she's birchen, just melanized. Some melanizers are not easily distinguishable in e+ males.

 

[NagemTX]

I don't think she's birchen, just melanized. Some melanizers are not easily distinguishable in e+ males.

Oh she's not I know that but some out of him are.

 

[phasianidae]

Oh she's not I know that but some out of him are.

And they have a silver duckwing Phoenix mother? Do you have pictures?

 

[NagemTX]

And they have a silver duckwing Phoenix mother? Do you have pictures?

Didn't say they where out of her. There is one hen that was with him that was out of a mixed color Ameraucana pen that looks birchen. She is blue with a red/golden laced neck feathers.

 

[nicalandia]

Off the top of my head birchen should not override wild type duckwing right?

Birchen is the Second most dominant e allele, it will override Wildtype. The order of dominance it's E>ER>e+>eWh>eb.