The Buckeye Thread

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Happy Chooks, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. JoshU

    JoshU Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I also hatch out in the spring. I hatched some chicks last winter and my basement was a wreck by the time I could get them outside. I have enough chores to do in winter as it is without worrying about keeping babies alive. But I also don't care how others do their hatching as long as they are not careless and putting featherless birds out in the blistering weather.
     
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  2. Marengoite

    Marengoite Chillin' With My Peeps

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    News to me. Who's adding DC to their Buckeye lines to get bigger heads?

    I know some folks who have hybrid Buckeye x DC's that they are using for meat birds, but they aren't trying to pass them off as Buckeyes. For that matter, I crossed a Buckeye roo over my Barred rocks and got some nice sex-linked chicks. But they're pretty easy to tell they aren't Buckeyes. The pullets were black with red neck feathers and boys were barred when they feathered out.
     
  3. Blueface

    Blueface Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hey Josh;
    Good to have you back brother! How have you been? Looking forward to reading your contributions! Good luck raising biddies this year!
     
  4. 007medic

    007medic Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Marengoite,

    Please take some pix of that cross! I'd love to see what the barring turned out like, and they really sound like attractive birds. I bet those crossed boys dressed out an awesome carcass. How quick did those boys get to slaughter weight?
     
  5. JoshU

    JoshU Chillin' With My Peeps

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    It's good to be back, Joe. It's been a long year here. But the buckeyes keep me smiling. They are coming along nicely. I am more excited about next year than ever before. I'm ready for spring and it's just starting to get cold here.
     
  6. Marengoite

    Marengoite Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Actually, they were surprisingly light compared to a Buckeye of comparable age. They are puffy like a Barred rock. They look like pea combed barred rocks with dark green barred tail feathers and a few flecks of red in the wing bow. I only kept one to breed over some Buckeye hens next year to see if I can get some red barred males and sex link pullets. I'm shooting for a pea combed version of the Rhodebar if it works out. I am thinking of starting the experiment over, though, if I like the way the next generation of chicks looks. The Barred rocks I started with were hatchery birds that tend to win in production at the fair every year. However, they don't have the heavy-bodied type of the heritage BRs. I'm tempted to order some Good Shepherd chicks or maybe locate a local heritage flock and get some cockerels.

    Also, my phone is no longer talking to my computer, so it's not uploading pics very well. I'll see if I can get Google to handle it and get some posted.
     
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  7. Minniechickmama

    Minniechickmama Senora Pollo Loco

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    I am not afraid to say that I crossed Buckeyes with Dark Cornish two years ago. My intentions at that time were not to add the DC blood to the Bucks, but to see how they measured up for meat use. It turns out, they work extremely well. The F1 generation actually throws about 5% single combs, and most of that generation comes out looking like Buckeyes but a little leggy. It is kind of crazy since both Bucks and DC are on the shorter leg spectrum, but crazy stuff happens when you cross.
    Then, you know what happened? I discovered that DCs were used in the making of the Buckeye. So, I have a handful of pullets who are the F1s that got bred back to pure Buckeye. Why would I do this, you might ask? Because I have had some issues with my line of Bucks that I needed to get rid of that I think bringing some new blood in would help with. Since the DCs are a parent breed, it is more of an infusion of an old blood, I believe. Do I sell those birds as pure Buckeyes? Nope. I do sell them, but I am up-front about what they are and explain this to people. However, most people getting birds from me are looking for a variety for a laying flock and don't care.
    If the DCs help with the head size on this strain, GREAT! Not that I see my birds in dire need of it, they have good head width.
    If it helps with body depth, GREAT! Again, not something I need, but if it helps a little...
    If it helps in giving them a more upright stance than I have now, GREAT! That, is something I might need a little more help with.
    If it helps in leg color, GREAT! Mine are good, but the crosses are better.
    If it helps my Buckeyes be better Buckeyes, well, I think you all can see the pattern here.

    To be quite frank, for those who go to shows and think that every bird in that show is of pure blood, you are fooling yourself. I have been talking to enough folks lately about what goes into making good specimens of various breeds to know that it is not UNcommon for breeders to bring in other breeds to boost the characteristics of what they want their line to achieve. You can breed pure for years, and if that is what makes your clock tick, that is fine and all the power to you. But I don't think judgement can be passed on those of us who are using a little more creative approach to getting where we want to be. Yes, in the show arena, this is called breeding ringers - birds that look like the breed they are shown as but are not pure. Perhaps that could be discussed on a thread somewhere about what is ethical in the show? I think I saw a thread somewhere recently about that stuff.
     
  8. Blueface

    Blueface Chillin' With My Peeps

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    That is intriguing; I knew of one guy here in Ohio several years ago that attempted that but the whole thing imploded on him. I too would be interested in finding out who and the result of such crosses. He mentioned the resulting culls sure tasted good.
     
  9. Blueface

    Blueface Chillin' With My Peeps

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    It is an interesting idea and explanation. Thanks for sharing :)
     
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  10. OSUman

    OSUman GO BUCKS

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    Here is a young Buckeye pullet I am growing out. Any thoughts on her?
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