The Buckeye Thread

[slfarms]

Chris McCary is the president of the American Buckeye Poultry Club and the one I am getting my trio from. Laura Hagarty told me he has awesome birds and that I would not be disappointed.

That's nice. See my private message.

 

[JoshU]

I just want to take the time to thank Joe from Shumaker Farm for all the help and guidance he has given to myself and frankly anyone who will listen. I'd have to say he has the best eye and knowledge of the buckeye in the country. In just a few short years he has surpassed long time breeders in the show pen. His standings there speak for themselves. Again thank you Joe. I would suggest anyone here that is looking to breed SOP quality bickeyes pay close attention to his posts and ask away any questions you can think of. I can't speak for others as I'veI've only seen pictures and a few in the show pen and have not been impressed. These are my opinions but the new yearbook will be out soon and it will show who has been successful in the american class and beyond. I will also add that Joe shows in the heart of large fowl territory against top american class longtime successful breeders.

 

[Blueface]

Thanks and you're welcome Josh! I'm glad to be able to be in a position to help others. I've been very fortunate and blessed to have a flock that is suited for both the table and the show pens. Despite what others may think, Buckeyes are very easy birds to breed and maintain. But they are also easy to screw up if you aren't somewhat selective in your matings or only focus on singular traits. I've observed a significant amount of that lately. You just keep doing what you are doing. I like what I see being produced on your yard.

 

[Blueface]

For beginners; Make sure you know the differences in terms. Just because a bird makes "Best of Breed" at a show doesn't mean that it can be considered a "Champion" unless it tops the class. Every breed gets a "Best of Breed" distinction if it shows up. I hope people interested in acquiring buckeyes realize that. I was skimming through google pics and that "Champion" label gets thrown around quite a bit and I can see how that would mislead people. There was one respectable photograph made of a buckeye that stated "Champion Buckeye" at the ON?!?!? Champion of what? Sure it was "Best of Breed" but it could hardly be considered a "Champion" but I'm sure that distinction is good for selling chicks and misleading people into buying something they think is more than it really is. This idea should be applied to all poultry breeds and make sure you know what you are purchasing.

 

[Blueface]

Gotta love those buckeye chicks! Dark chicks make dark birds!

 

[Blueface]

The bantams are doing great! I can't wait to start showing these birds! They are very nice!!

 

[knittychickadee]

Chris McCary is the president of the American Buckeye Poultry Club and the one I am getting my trio from. Laura Hagarty told me he has awesome birds and that I would not be disappointed.

chickadoodles, I have personal experience with birds from Chris and Laura is absolutely correct, you won't be disappointed. I have yet to come across a line that lays or produces for the table better, and though he doesn't show as often as others, his record there when he does show speaks for itself. Great all around Buckeyes!

 

[A Nonny Moose]

<<~~ Just because a bird makes "Best of Breed" at a show doesn't mean that it can be considered a "Champion" unless it tops the class.>>

If it is BOB... isn't it the best in "That Class" and if it is the best In "that" class.... isn't it the "champion" of "that class" ?

 

[slfarms]

<<~~ Just because a bird makes "Best of Breed" at a show doesn't mean that it can be considered a "Champion" unless it tops the class.>>

If it is BOB... isn't it the best in "That Class" and if it is the best In "that" class.... isn't it the "champion" of  "that class" ?

The point I believe is best of breed is subjective. You can have best of breed and only three of the breed at the show. No apa points are awarded for that. Only when the bird actually makes it on champion row beating out all others in the American class can you say you have a champion bird.

To many people put great stock in that best of breed.

 

[Blueface]

<<~~ Just because a bird makes "Best of Breed" at a show doesn't mean that it can be considered a "Champion" unless it tops the class.>>

If it is BOB... isn't it the best in "That Class" and if it is the best In "that" class.... isn't it the "champion" of  "that class" ?

I've never known the buckeyes to have a "class"....they are a breed; hence...best of breed of which is in the American "class". People get all excited and make a big deal about winning the breed which is great but you leave with what you came with and a nifty little cage card.

The point that I'm trying to get at is this whole thread is about breeding and showing and to teach people about the buckeye. it isn't always going to be sugar coated. Terminology is very important. All that I'm stating is there are differences and some people view these terms very differently. It's good for the beginner to understand and know what you is being meant. This subject tends to get some very excited and I don't understand why. It is what it is and if potential breeders and exhibitors want more; they need to figure out how to earn it. Breeding, raising, and showing poultry is very difficult, takes great commitment, and can be expensive for that matter. It's good to understand this and not go into showing poultry without that understanding.