The bullying has to stop...children are dying

[pdsavage]

Alot of times when kids are bullied others are watching and to scared to speak up.
We have to teach our kids to speak up and speak out.
Plenty of kids will speak up and defend if they had the skills and learn how to.

 

[Chickengal505]

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If you know the neighbors dog bites you stay away from it. You know the stove top is hot so you don't touch it. You know that knives cut so you don't play with them. So yes if there's a place on the internet where you're being bullied then don't go there and give them the chance to bully you.

And to take the analogies a bit further, if you're being sexually harassed at work, you shouldn't go to work?

Yeah...I didn't think so.

Bullies are to be stopped, NOT avoided.

Woops, didn't mean to re-post

 

[KristyHall]

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If you know the neighbors dog bites you stay away from it. You know the stove top is hot so you don't touch it. You know that knives cut so you don't play with them. So yes if there's a place on the internet where you're being bullied then don't go there and give them the chance to bully you.

And to take the analogies a bit further, if you're being sexually harassed at work, you shouldn't go to work?

Yeah...I didn't think so.

Bullies are to be stopped, NOT avoided.

agreed. it i like saying if you are sexually harassed you shouldn't wear a red dress. it is blaming the victim instead of blaming the perpetrators lack of control of their own behavior.

 

[KristyHall]

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it is even worse if a child (or even adult) tries to reach out to an adult and is dismissed. it discourages the victim from seeking help again.

 

[SarahBeth9394]

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There are ways in the work place to deal with that and my previous post did. This part of the issue had to do with dealing with cyber-bullying and common sense. The point is if you are online and someone is harassing you on a site that has no moderation then why in the heck would you continue to go there. There are plenty of good places on the net. Please understand what you are replying to before replying.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

I probably should have put more spaces between those posts SIlly chicken. Not adressed as you. XD

You aren't' the only one who has experience with Aspergers. You did not ask for details. You asked if the behavior was consistent with Aspergers and I answered that no it is not. This answer of course referring the behavior of a bully's parent. I'm sure that there are some on the spectrum that could be bully's or the parents of bully's but I would say that no it is not common and there is likely more going on than just Aspergers. But to answer "yes" to your question would be a disservice to awareness since Aspergers is on the spectrum and even a answer of "more than likely to have this trait" is irresponsible. We have to watch the way we answer these questions because society is just barely learning about Aspergers and we don't need society to put inappropriate labels on it. And yes inappropriate touching would most definitely be an inappropriate label to put on someone with Aspergers.

Nor would I assume I am...? However, ignoring traits that are tied to certain syndromes or disorders will never do anyone any actual benefit in my opinion. Allowing people to go undiagnosed seems to have lead to the most discomfort in people's lives that I know. I asked PBJ because she will have more insight than a rather vague description, and it may open up some avenues for her to provide better assistance. Listing a grouping of behaviors and then ignoring stated possibilities (definitely was not meant as an end-all-be-all diagnosis) due to fear of people getting the wrong idea just increases fear and ingorance in my opinion.

 

[Orchid]

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There are ways in the work place to deal with that and my previous post did. This part of the issue had to do with dealing with cyber-bullying and common sense. The point is if you are online and someone is harassing you on a site that has no moderation then why in the heck would you continue to go there. There are plenty of good places on the net. Please understand what you are replying to before replying.

I understood perfectly well to what I was replying. I don't care "where" you are, be it in real life or online, it is not right for a person not to be able to enjoy a site because they are being bullied. The bully is the one who needs to leave, not the person being bullied. Wrong is wrong and needs to be addressed, not avoided, thereby punishing the victim.

 

[SarahBeth9394]

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And schools have taken the ability to defend yourself away. They even go as far as punishing them for accidentally hurting the bully. When my son was in 3rd grade some brat kid took his hat and was teasing him. So my son reached to grab it and accidentally scratched the kid. The school even recognized that the other kid was bugging my son and the scratch was not on purpose. Guess who got suspended. My son. So I looked the principal in the eye and said "that brat is lucky that my son isn't as mean as he is big or he would have squashed the little brat that started the trouble". Then I looked at my son and said "tomorrow is a vacation day. We are going to sit around, eat ice cream and watch movies".

 

[punk-a-doodle]

agreed. it i like saying if you are sexually harassed you shouldn't wear a red dress. it is blaming the victim instead of blaming the perpetrators lack of control of their own behavior.

Ah, you covered one of my old favorites! Always hear that one thrown around.


Blaming the victim certainly makes me question why I am in a society when if we go by the person-with-a-bigger-stick mentality, I'm better off huddled down in a cave with my pet mammoth, Humphrey.


For those tossing around labels such as "selfish" and "cowardly" to describe suicide, realize you are speaking of a broad subject and pigeon holing it to fit your comfort level. I do not feel those close to me who have attempted suicide are weak, selfish, cowardly, etc. In contrast, they have all been highly empathetic, caring people who had issues with either mental illness or a great imbalance in their lives at the time. An altering of medication usually helped immensely. And it was not medication for their back bones.​

 

[SarahBeth9394]

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There are ways in the work place to deal with that and my previous post did. This part of the issue had to do with dealing with cyber-bullying and common sense. The point is if you are online and someone is harassing you on a site that has no moderation then why in the heck would you continue to go there. There are plenty of good places on the net. Please understand what you are replying to before replying.

I understood perfectly well to what I was replying. I don't care "where" you are, be it in real life or online, it is not right for a person not to be able to enjoy a site because they are being bullied. The bully is the one who needs to leave, not the person being bullied. Wrong is wrong and needs to be addressed, not avoided, thereby punishing the victim.

You didn't read the original comment on cyber bullying so NO you didn't understand. There are plenty of places online that don't protect the victim. It's not at all like going to school or work where you have to be. You don't have to be on a site that's a den of wolves. To go put a target on yourself is asinine.