The Evolution of Atlas: A Breeding (and Chat) Thread

One thing I always say is that you only get treated the way you allow yourself to be treated, ultimately.
Good riddance indeed. Hope your son does not waste much sympathy on her needing someone to manage her meds and such. Let her suffer.

Agreed. I hope at least he gets to keep both his dogs. It's cruel of her to separate them from each other. Ghost and Sophie adore each other just like my Cody and Kes did. Cody helped Kes gain confidence and learn to play. He was as dominant as she was submissive, much like those two dogs of his. But, it takes an owner caring more about the dogs than she does herself and that is not the case here, sadly. If I didn't have the cat and chickens, I'd say bring them both here to hide him from her until she's gone, but I have to think of my own animals.

My younger son, who is back in S. Korea, said this when I told him. He knew about the separation and cheating, but this was a shocker for him:

OMG. What the? I had no idea. I swear this is a soap opera. Definitely need to bring this up in court. She's such a skank!

Of course, her giving up a child for adoption when she was 18 has no real bearing on this divorce action, but to me, to live with your son as your younger brother and at 32 years old, he still has no idea, is just plain wrong as heck. I feel so badly for him because at some point, the truth will reveal itself. It always does.
 
I recommend some serious counseling for your son, after she leaves. I know you can't make him do anything, but it wouldn't hurt to suggest the counseling. Maybe that way he can work out issues as to why he would pick someone like that, and then stay with them. It would be nice if he didn't repeat the same mistake again.
 
I recommend some serious counseling for your son, after she leaves. I know you can't make him do anything, but it wouldn't hurt to suggest the counseling. Maybe that way he can work out issues as to why he would pick someone like that, and then stay with them. It would be nice if he didn't repeat the same mistake again.

Counseling costs money. He has none because of her. He needs to be alone and work on himself for a long time, not get back in the water with the sharks, so to speak. I told him as much, that looking for someone else at all would be a serious mistake.
 
Unfortunately it seems like people who settle for such burdens are very likely to jump right in with another similar subject, they seem to crave companionship and in some way like having someone around who says they "need" them. For those folks, being alone equals loneliness, instead of time to reflect and do their own thing for a while.
 
Unfortunately it seems like people who settle for such burdens are very likely to jump right in with another similar subject, they seem to crave companionship and in some way like having someone around who says they "need" them. For those folks, being alone equals loneliness, instead of time to reflect and do their own thing for a while.

Remember, he married at 22 years old, right out of college. She was 31 already. He was no match for a manipulative woman at that age. Hopefully, at 41, he has learned quite a lot with his life experience and won't be back in a relationship like that again.
 
Well, he's an adult. I'm not going to push him. Let him sink or swim. I personally am not someone who would do counseling. That is his decision, one way or another. If he wants to be stupid, I'm just not going to pay for his mistakes. He will and in more ways than he may realize at the moment.

As for where he got experience, he got experience in dealing with all different types of people in managing restaurants over the years. You don't have to be married three times or date fifty people to learn what not to do, IMO. My advice is to learn to be alone with himself for a period of time, not look for companionship. He has a dog for that. And yes, I'm serious. No one needs to be with a partner.
 
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