The Evolution of Atlas: A Breeding (and Chat) Thread

[getaclue]

Sorry to hear about your cow, but glad it wasn't rabies. The orphs are lovely.

 

[getaclue]

Dh is out unrolling electrical wire. He got it buried, and run. Now he's getting all the fixtures wired.

 

[holm25]

I'm glad to hear that Rabies was not an issue.

Me too!

 

[holm25]

Sorry to hear about your cow, but glad it wasn't rabies.  The orphs are lovely. 

Thank you!

 

[speckledhen]

How is Xander this morning?

Not good. Crop is huge, not as hard, but more doughy. I was beginning to think I had a bad feed issue, but I got down in the bag and, as usual, it is clean and fresh-smelling so I don't know. It's the same feed I've used for years, Tucker Milling.

I'm glad to hear that Rabies was not an issue.

Me, too!
@holm25 Isaiah, I like the deep gold color on your new guy.

Dh is out unrolling electrical wire. He got it buried, and run. Now he's getting all the fixtures wired.

Excitement!

 

[Wyatt0224]

If you don't mind me asking, what could runny nostrils and bubbles coming out and I can hear her breathe mean? I got a welsummer pullet and this is what is happening to her. Yesterday it appeared as if she was trying to breathe out of her mouth. Any idea what could be wrong with her?

 

[Pyxis]

If you don't mind me asking, what could runny nostrils and bubbles coming out and I can hear her breathe mean? I got a welsummer pullet and this is what is happening to her. Yesterday it appeared as if she was trying to breathe out of her mouth. Any idea what could be wrong with her?

When did you get her? Because that sounds a lot like she could be a carrier of one of the nasty respiratory diseases, like mycoplasma or coryza. Personally I'd be culling her so she didn't infect my flock if this is a new bird you just got. Could be other things too but I wouldn't take the chance.

 

[Wyatt0224]

I got her two sundays ago. So far no one else seems to be having this problem. Is there any way I can treat her without culling her?

 

[Pyxis]

I got her two sundays ago. So far no one else seems to be having this problem. Is there any way I can treat her without culling her?

Yes, but then you'd have to consider your whole flock carriers. Again like I said it might not be this, there are other things, but these are the most common and without testing it's better to assume your flock is now carrying it so you don't spread the disease to others. What that means is that you never sell or give away birds or chicks or even eggs for hatching because if it's mycoplasma, it can and does spread right through the egg and chicks can hatch infected.

The rest of your birds might not be showing symptoms yet because mycoplasma has up to a 3 week incubation period.

As for treating, that is going to be harder than it was before because of the new medicine laws for livestock. Tetracycline is no longer something you can just pick up off the shelf. If it's mycoplasma, Denagard will be your best bet as it's one of the only treatments you can use that you won't have to go to a vet to get.

Does she have a bad smell, especially around her nostrils coming from her nasal discharge? If so it would be coryza, and the treatment is different.

There are also viral things it could be, in which case treatment will do nothing and it would just have to run its course.

If you really want to know what it is, you can have a vet do a test for you, but expect that to cost at least $100. Otherwise you can cull her and send her off for a necropsy. A lot of states have programs for that and will do it for free.

Sorry for hijacking your thread Cyn! I'm a little passionate on this subject because an irresponsible breeder infected my flock with hatching eggs and I had to cull and start over.

 

[speckledhen]

I got her two sundays ago. So far no one else seems to be having this problem. Is there any way I can treat her without culling her?

Has she been quarantined away from your flock since you got her? Sounds like you have her in there already. First thing to do is separate her if you haven't already. And I mean completely out of their air space. All you can do is wait and see if your flock comes down with something. I'd clean/bleach waterers and spray around roost areas with Vikon-S or Oxine if you have either of them, just a mild solution. Both are great germ killers, but it may be hard with birds in the coop. And you'd watch her for improvement. I would not treat with antibiotics, personally. They will not cure most chicken diseases, not really.

If she has mycoplasma or Coryza, she would remain a carrier, even if you got her asymptomatic. The problem is that we can't really tell over the web what she has with any real certainty.

Yes, but then you'd have to consider your whole flock carriers. Again like I said it might not be this, there are other things, but these are the most common and without testing it's better to assume your flock is now carrying it so you don't spread the disease to others. What that means is that you never sell or give away birds or chicks or even eggs for hatching because if it's mycoplasma, it can and does spread right through the egg and chicks can hatch infected.

The rest of your birds might not be showing symptoms yet because mycoplasma has up to a 3 week incubation period.

As for treating, that is going to be harder than it was before because of the new medicine laws for livestock. Tetracycline is no longer something you can just pick up off the shelf. If it's mycoplasma, Denagard will be your best bet as it's one of the only treatments you can use that you won't have to go to a vet to get.

Does she have a bad smell, especially around her nostrils coming from her nasal discharge? If so it would be coryza, and the treatment is different.

There are also viral things it could be, in which case treatment will do nothing and it would just have to run its course.

If you really want to know what it is, you can have a vet do a test for you, but expect that to cost at least $100. Otherwise you can cull her and send her off for a necropsy. A lot of states have programs for that and will do it for free.

Sorry for hijacking your thread Cyn! I'm a little passionate on this subject because an irresponsible breeder infected my flock with hatching eggs and I had to cull and start over.

This is exactly why I am so adamant about not buying started birds, generally. Even quarantine is not a perfect solution. Your situation is less common, getting something through hatching eggs, though certainly it happens. It happened to crazyhen with MS. Mostly, diseases are passed from bird to bird when folks get new stock and put them in with their flock immediately.