The Evolution of Atlas: A Breeding (and Chat) Thread

[Leahs Mom]

Ouch.

 

[h2oratt]

I keep saying this to people, that there are many more things that are possible than the few go-to diagnoses. I've seen some stuff that I can't really categorize at all, could be something known that just presents in an unusual way. Maretta's large tumor-like growths on her side is one of those that I am clueless about, but my gut says she's riddled with some sort of cancer.


Thanks. I haven't worn any quilts out yet so I can't say. I do buy good quality fabric as well. I guess all fabrics wear with age, plus the water you wash in can wear them out, too, I'd think, whatever minerals are present in it, etc.

I miss Gypsy so much. I keep looking in the pen, thinking I see her. Or I'll say, "Let out Gypsy's group" when now, it's Panda's group. That precious girl was part of my life for over 11 years and it's hard to believe she's gone.

So sorry Cynthia, I know we will be with our beloved animals again. I hope that gives you some comfort.

 

[h2oratt]

Granny Hatchett was telling a story about how she goes to a pain clinic and the local pharmacy refused to fill it because in his opinion it was too early. It wasn’t the regular pharmacist. I had no idea they could decide what prescription to fill or not based in their judgement. Ridiculous

 

[getaclue]

speckledhen, while the doctor said not to get his back done there, did he say where to have it done, or try setting up an appointment with a good doctor somewhere?

When my cousin first moved back to Florida, from Alabama, she needed surgery on her back. One of the rods had not been properly secured, causing a chain reaction, so they had to reattach several rods. She didn't know any of the doctors here, and didn't want to gamble on who was good, or not. She and her husband went to Alabama, got a room, and stayed overnight for the initial consultation stuff, then they returned for her scheduled surgery. I think they stayed a week, before she was released to travel home. They went back and stayed overnight for her follow up visit. This may be somewhat of the scenario you guys might consider, so he can get his back fixed. She was in pain, and down for the count, so to speak, for awhile. She got her physical therapy here in Florida. It wasn't too long after she started physical therapy, that she's been fine every since.

Something I learned long ago is that not all pharmacies are licensed to dispense all medications. When the person at the pharmacy was calling your prescription "the highest level" of medication, that meant it was a higher dose than they're allowed to dispense. When they removed my breasts and lymph nodes, I was put on a very high dosage of pain medication. There were only 2 pharmacies at this end of our county that had a high enough license to fill that level of pain medication. In fact, the first time I had it filled, they only had enough to partially fill it, so Dh had to return the next day to get the rest.
They kept enough in stock after that, so I didn't have to wait to get the whole thing filled. Now, one of my best options is the hospital pharmacy. The cancer center I go to, is at the main hospital here, and the hospital pharmacy will fill the prescriptions for pain medications without any problems.

There are 2 factors in regards to the "war on opioids" that are ridiculous. 1. It's not as much about opioids as it is about heroine addiction. If the media and heroine addicts are to be believed, opioids are a gateway drug into heroine addiction. It's heroine addiction that they're really fighting. Remember they just passed the bill here about all first responders being able to give heroine addicts that overdose, a shot of Narcan to save their lives. 2. There is really not much else available for serious pain, or long term pain. When they fist came out with Toradol, not to be confused with Tramadol, I loved it. They say it doesn't work on everyone, but it works on most people, and it sure works on me. Toradol is not a narcotic, not addictive, and is fantastic for killing pain. Sounds great right? The problem they discovered with Toradol is that after a few days, it SIGNIFICANTLY increases the risk of a heart attack. It's for very short term use only. In the meantime, there really is nothing out there to replace opioids for pain.

Politicians should NOT get involved with healthcare. That's why those that really need pain medications, that don't abuse their medications, that know the risks, and are responsible, can't get their needed pain medications. The government is currently going after the doctors, threatening to suspend their licenses, they're going after pharmacies, threatening to revoke licenses, etc. I understand that in the 60's and early 70's Valium was overprescribed. Yes, there was a crackdown on it too, although I don't remember it being as severe as their latest crackdown on opioids. In the meantime, they came out with Xanax, which is different than Valium in composition, but does the same thing, is just as addictive as Valium, and has most of the same side effects. Prescriptions for Xanax were double those of Valium. So how is this better? It's not. Same dog, different collar.

 

[speckledhen]

speckledhen, while the doctor said not to get his back done there, did he say where to have it done, or try setting up an appointment with a good doctor somewhere?

No. The ER doc said he didn't know any surgeons that did backs, only that the ortho surgeons up here didn't.

This may be somewhat of the scenario you guys might consider, so he can get his back fixed.

Can't leave my animals overnight. I have no one to help me. Can't leave my crippled birds that long. Tom would have to go alone. We're alone, there is no one.

 

[1muttsfan]

Sorry you both have to go through all this. And I hope they get Tom somewhere to get help. If I needed such treatment, I would also be on my own - no husband, no family nearby, and my BF is not that kind of guy. But Tom is independent and strong minded, so I think he could handle it.

Not to excuse the pharmacists, but they are actually personally on the hook if someone IS an addict and runs into trouble taking medication, EVEN if it is legally prescribed - another unfair aspect of the whole mess.

 

[speckledhen]

Seriously, this passing the blame to anyone other than the addict is nuts. Me, I'm all for natural selection. Let adults be adults and if they get hooked, then they face the consequences. For instance, the entire stupid thing about Sudafed was ridiculous. I was not about to put my name on a list to buy a decongestant "just in case" I was running a meth lab. I say let 'em do it. Let 'em blow themselves to smithereens if they get stupid. But, stop penalizing me for their stupidity. I feel the same about opioids. Heroin is the opioid that is hooking and killing people and it's illegal, can't even prescribe that. Hydrocodone is making it possible for people like my husband to get through a day with pain at a more tolerable level. Even he doesn't take it unless he is in screaming agony, which he was over the past week.

The nurse practitioner gave Tom the name of a spine surgeon on the other side of town, but we don't know if he even takes Medicare or works with the VA or what. His name is...get this....Grimm. That's like the chiropractor in Ohio named Chaput. Geez, unfortunate name for the job!

 

[seminolewind]

Seriously, this passing the blame to anyone other than the addict is nuts. Me, I'm all for natural selection. Let adults be adults and if they get hooked, then they face the consequences. For instance, the entire stupid thing about Sudafed was ridiculous. I was not about to put my name on a list to buy a decongestant "just in case" I was running a meth lab. I say let 'em do it. Let 'em blow themselves to smithereens if they get stupid. But, stop penalizing me for their stupidity. I feel the same about opioids. Heroin is the opioid that is hooking and killing people and it's illegal, can't even prescribe that. Hydrocodone is making it possible for people like my husband to get through a day with pain at a more tolerable level. Even he doesn't take it unless he is in screaming agony, which he was over the past week.

The nurse practitioner gave Tom the name of a spine surgeon on the other side of town, but we don't know if he even takes Medicare or works with the VA or what. His name is...get this....Grimm. That's like the chiropractor in Ohio named Chaput. Geez, unfortunate name for the job!

I so agree. Let people take their drugs and not use society as "enablers".

 

[seminolewind]

speckledhen, while the doctor said not to get his back done there, did he say where to have it done, or try setting up an appointment with a good doctor somewhere?

When my cousin first moved back to Florida, from Alabama, she needed surgery on her back. One of the rods had not been properly secured, causing a chain reaction, so they had to reattach several rods. She didn't know any of the doctors here, and didn't want to gamble on who was good, or not. She and her husband went to Alabama, got a room, and stayed overnight for the initial consultation stuff, then they returned for her scheduled surgery. I think they stayed a week, before she was released to travel home. They went back and stayed overnight for her follow up visit. This may be somewhat of the scenario you guys might consider, so he can get his back fixed. She was in pain, and down for the count, so to speak, for awhile. She got her physical therapy here in Florida. It wasn't too long after she started physical therapy, that she's been fine every since.

Something I learned long ago is that not all pharmacies are licensed to dispense all medications. When the person at the pharmacy was calling your prescription "the highest level" of medication, that meant it was a higher dose than they're allowed to dispense. When they removed my breasts and lymph nodes, I was put on a very high dosage of pain medication. There were only 2 pharmacies at this end of our county that had a high enough license to fill that level of pain medication. In fact, the first time I had it filled, they only had enough to partially fill it, so Dh had to return the next day to get the rest.
They kept enough in stock after that, so I didn't have to wait to get the whole thing filled. Now, one of my best options is the hospital pharmacy. The cancer center I go to, is at the main hospital here, and the hospital pharmacy will fill the prescriptions for pain medications without any problems.

There are 2 factors in regards to the "war on opioids" that are ridiculous. 1. It's not as much about opioids as it is about heroine addiction. If the media and heroine addicts are to be believed, opioids are a gateway drug into heroine addiction. It's heroine addiction that they're really fighting. Remember they just passed the bill here about all first responders being able to give heroine addicts that overdose, a shot of Narcan to save their lives. 2. There is really not much else available for serious pain, or long term pain. When they fist came out with Toradol, not to be confused with Tramadol, I loved it. They say it doesn't work on everyone, but it works on most people, and it sure works on me. Toradol is not a narcotic, not addictive, and is fantastic for killing pain. Sounds great right? The problem they discovered with Toradol is that after a few days, it SIGNIFICANTLY increases the risk of a heart attack. It's for very short term use only. In the meantime, there really is nothing out there to replace opioids for pain.

Politicians should NOT get involved with healthcare. That's why those that really need pain medications, that don't abuse their medications, that know the risks, and are responsible, can't get their needed pain medications. The government is currently going after the doctors, threatening to suspend their licenses, they're going after pharmacies, threatening to revoke licenses, etc. I understand that in the 60's and early 70's Valium was overprescribed. Yes, there was a crackdown on it too, although I don't remember it being as severe as their latest crackdown on opioids. In the meantime, they came out with Xanax, which is different than Valium in composition, but does the same thing, is just as addictive as Valium, and has most of the same side effects. Prescriptions for Xanax were double those of Valium. So how is this better? It's not. Same dog, different collar.

You know they did a study once in the UK with giving terminal patients heroin. They also stated that if you take pain meds while in pain, you'll not get addicted. Problem is when you're taking pain meds without pain.

 

[h2oratt]

Actually there is something can replace opioids, it’s called CBD OIL. of course big pharma is trying to stop that with everything they got.