The Health Care Law.

[RHRanch]

NO! People paid into it and they deserved it when they retire!

The new tax on people who dont currently need to use thier insurance, is also paying for it for them when they need it.

 

[thaiturkey]

None of you has yet experienced the effects of this new legislation but some are assuming the worst and inventing the rest. If you want to see how a developed State health care system can work for the benefit of both country and individuals, get a passport, buy a map to find the way out of your town and fly to Europe, Australia or New Zealand. You won't get free health care yourselves but you would be able to see how the system works and develop better informed views.

The argument against taxes for personal benefit is a dead duck. Don't you pay taxes for roads, for example? Or do you buy your own bit of road to get around on? What about the police force? Do each of you employ a policeman for your own personal benefit?

Can someone post, please, an official summary of what's being discussed here? I mean the health care law.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

This is not state health care... This is the same health care we have had for years. They just made it law to buy a private plan. It has nothing in common with country's that run there health care.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

What about the police force? Do each of you employ a policeman for your own personal benefit?

Choice C.

 

[thaiturkey]

This is not state health care... This is the same health care we have had for years. They just made it law to buy a private plan. It has nothing in common with country's that run there health care.

Yes, I understand that it's a compromise. Do you have a note of the provisions of the law that can be posted here?

 

[Royd]

Well, without getting into whether we know if that person needs welfare or is just doing it for free cash, that is why we need everyone who can paying into it to make it work. Also, they have to be earning income to get the EITC, so most people on welfare probably don't recieve it. http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=134524,00.html

All the people who can is no more than those already contributing to the tax burden of this country...In other words, the producers will just carry a heavier load than they already do......How does that fit into Obama's definition of fairness? I know he repeated that word several times in his High Five speech on Thurs.

 

[Royd]

The EIC is at least a step in the direction to encourage work.

Wow! I wish the govt. would give me free money to encourage me to work. What a great concept....Sort of like free school loans to encourage you to study.

 

[Royd]

While discussing health care reform, why does it seem that people have completely forgotten that government run health care has been happily embraced by the elderly for many years? It should be means tested to continue successfully. The premiums are wayyyy out of touch with the real world costs of health care.

It was and is a vote buying scheme, something for little of nothing. Another great concept.

 

[thaiturkey]

All the people who can is no more than those already contributing to the tax burden of this country...In other words, the producers will just carry a heavier load than they already do......How does that fit into Obama's definition of fairness? I know he repeated that word several times in his High Five speech on Thurs.

If, as you said earlier, the new law obliges you to buy private insurance, what's that got to do with taxes? Or are you taking the view that compulsory insurance is a tax?

 

[Royd]

They haven't paid into it what they receive, no matter how you look at it. And the program is going broke because of this.

That's because the money is never set aside as a dedicated fund and allowed to work for the people. It gets thrown into the general piggybank and is a free for all for every politician and lobbyist who can get their hands on it.