The Health Care Law.

[chickened]

It seems to me that the people who are going to experience the most difficulty with this law are the lower to middle income families, not companies. These uninsured families might be facing a new bill in the hundreds of dollars each month because of the individual mandate.

The same group that has always been taxed by democrats. The bill will show up on your tax returns and be enforced and collected by the IRS. Can we say "I was lied to?"

I am curious how this law will effect the 1%.

 

[Royd]

The bottom line is that the Affordable Care Act was found constitutional.

I think the real key is keeping down health care costs, in general. I think this country has too many specialists, and too much high tech testing. You don't need a CT scan every time your arm hurts. Your GP should be able to do general procedures without referring you to a specialist. Some doctors are better at this then others. My mom's doctor loves referrals. Mom has a mole that needs looking at...go see a dermatologist; mom has ingrown eyelashes...go see a opthamologist. In both cases, a good GP should be able to handle mole removal and pulling an eyelash. This doctor is gate keeper, not a medical practitioner. Many doctors are like this.

The downside is that Obama stood and told us, many times, that there was not going be a single dime's tax on anyone making under $250,000...Now, they have just inposed an onerous, inescapable tax on everyone....If you want to avoid other types of tax, you avoid the activity associated with it.

Well, except for those carveouts for unions and crony businesses they find favor with.

As for your other point, the main reasons for a thousand tests is because of the sue happy society we live in...If we went to a loser pays tort system, most of the really silly lawsuits would go away.

Oh, no, my surgery left a visible, ugly scar...That ought to be worth a quarter million.

 

[dainerra]

Employers will be tallying total hours to determine their responsibility with the law Dainerra, so from the way I understand it, your scenario is very unlikely, maybe even impossible.

Stephanie, I know. I was pointing out that those habits I mentioned is why the law is worded the way that it is - to prevent this type of behavior in the future.

 

[redhen]

The Canadian system is similarly funded as the new Obamacare will be funded, through taxation.
http://www.canadian-healthcare.org/page8.html

Yes..but do they HAVE to PURCHASE an insurance policy? (I'm not sure how it works)

 

[redhen]

Aren't we STILL going to be taxed...to make up for the ones that wont purchase the health insurance?
PLUS...still have to pay for our own health insurance policy?

 

[RHRanch]

Yes..but do they HAVE to PURCHASE an insurance policy? (I'm not sure how it works)

Here the option is to either buy private insurance or not buying it and being taxed. In Canada, they are all covered by the national healthcare, the private insurance option is not available. They can purchase insurance for things that are not covered by the national healthcare if they chooses, but that is private coverage. They all pay the tax so they all are covered, its the source of funding. Folks, we can't have a national healthcare system without a lot of people paying taxes (or some other fine, premium, etc) to fund it - how else would we pay for it? Thats how they pay for this in Canada and the UK.

 

[RHRanch]

Aren't we STILL going to be taxed...to make up for the ones that wont purchase the health insurance?
PLUS...still have to pay for our own health insurance policy?

Hopefully the ones who don't want to buy a private policy will themselves be taxed to pay thier share of thier national coverage. Assuming they make enough money to qualify for being taxed, they will pay - and cover that expense. There are generally tax breaks or taxes that low income people don't have to pay, or they don't have to file... Those poor folks wont have to pay or won't have to pay as large an amount (if I get this all correctly, it is a bit confusing - lol) If most are not either buying thier own insurance or paying taxes, there won't be any way to pay for it. That's why I was laughing at Romney the other day when he said he would basically like to see the healthcare passed if it were not paid for by taxes without giving us a viable alternative as to how to pay for it.

 

[redhen]

Okay...and if we are taxed....do we then get the health coverage? Because...by paying the tax..we ARE then paying for it..right?
So can I just not purchase the insurance...pay the taxes at tax time.....and be covered during the year?
You see what I'm saying? Just HOW is this really going to work..
AND..I don't believe for a second that the ones buying health ins wont have higher premiums or taxes to pay for the non payers...SOMEONE will have to pay for them! And if they're not working..who will that be?
As usual the working class has to pay for the loosers..and feed their kids too...now lets add health care costs onto that..why not..
Middle class working folks are screwed once again..

 

[redhen]

My understanding is that if you DONT purchase a health policy..you have no insurance...kinda like how it is now.
except with this new law...you will now be taxed...BUT you STILL wont have health insurance...
gee...sounds like a win win situation for people to me..

 

[kuntrygirl]

So, for those who DO NOT have health insurance and cannot afford to pay for it and have to go to the emergency room and perhaps take a ride to the ER in an ambulance and have emergency surgery or administered any other medical procedure, who pays for their medical bill????????????????? Would this "prompt" them to think twice and get insurance?