The Health Care Law.

[RHRanch]

Now wait a minute... are we talking about a medical procedure that bankrupts people or 15.00 to 40.00 a month here. Seems hardly a benefit for such a quarrel.

Look at the bright side your decision making involves a third person now... Uncle Sam.

It's hardly a quibble - all us ladies are trying to trick folks into paying for our sexual exploits. It certainly has nothing to do with health or quality of life or the prevention of medical problems. Thank goodness someone thought to point out how unfair it is that women expect reproductive health to be part of healthcare.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

Shhhh RHR...you're giving away our secret!

My health care has always involved other parties, ie. insurance companies.

 

[chickened]

It's hardly a quibble - all us ladies are trying to trick folks into paying for our sexual exploits. It certainly has nothing to do with health or quality of life or the prevention of medical problems. Thank goodness someone thought to point out how unfair it is that women expect reproductive health to be part of healthcare.

You know that is one I could never figure. A woman always says she wants control over what she does with her own body but when responsibility for those decisions come they want someone else to foot the bill.

At least when a man buys a condom he puts his own 50 cents in the machine.

 

[chickened]

Well lets ask this... what should insurance NOT pay for?

 

[punk-a-doodle]

It has already been pointed out how a condom differs from a pill. . Women pay for their own diaphragms, but it isn't going to cover the health risks and issues previously touched upon. Similarly, I haven't seen a man get Viagra out of the vending machine. Nice try though.

 

[hemet dennis]

Well lets ask this... what should insurance NOT pay for?

I think insurance should pay for my chickens because they improve my health.

 

[hemet dennis]

I don't know how the tax on real estate sales helps any ones health. The health care law has in it a national real estate tax of 3.8%. Doesn't that add to the people making less then $250,000 a year ?

 

[Royd]

Sorry, I did not read your links, but I don't think that we do pregnant women much justice in this country. Just out of my own I interest, I have read up on how other countries compare when it comes to managing pregnancy. For instance, I find it fascinating that in many places obstetricians only exist to be seen by those, who truly are high risk pregnancies. Otherwise, they see a midwife or family doctor. Obstetricians are highly trained specialists. Why has it become so normalized for a healthy woman to see an obstetrician? Would you see a cardiologist for a normal check up? No, but pregnancy is big business. Pregnancy is a completely normal function of a woman's body. So unless some true medical need arises then I don't get why we are seeing expensive specialists. In Finland (I believe), a midwife is so highly prized that if one of their patients becomes high risk and, therefore, needs to see an obstetrician, the midwife attends every appointment to be sure that the woman's true needs are met correctly.
A midwife has been trained similarly to a family physician in that they see a pregnancy as a normal part of a woman's life. Her body was made for this. Now, of course, there are women who truly need to see an OB for good reason, but many of us do not. C- Sections are big business. And not surprising is their alarming rate in this country. Midwives and family doctors have a much lower fee for pregnancy care and delivery. It does not mean they are less qualified. I have saw an OB with my first and midwives with my second and third babies. The care I received from midwives was absolutely outstanding. The OB ran unnecessary tests, urged me to take pain meds (that I about had to fight with her about while in labor), and just did not believe that my body was designed to do this without her intervention. I proved her wrong. Simply put the model of care is so vastly different from one another and does equate to big differences in the billing aspect of it all, too.
Sooo off topic from your point, but your post reminded me of this.

It's not about healthcare. It's about securing a permanent voting base, with a, "Look what we did for you." Much like the War on Poverty has secured the black vote with the permanent welfare class who now thinks that a check in the mail every two weeks is a God given right.

 

[Royd]

I doubt it because I foresee the government subsidizing the companies. I think they do it that way for crop insurance too, to keep it affordable for the farmers.

Excuse me, but where do you think subsidies come from?

 

[Royd]

I would prefer to take care of my own health care needs. I believe God has given us the proper foods and herbs to live a long healthy life. If I do break a bone, etc. I would prefer an urgent care center operated on a financial scale basis.

We are on the same page. Self awareness is the greatest health tool of all......One statistic which I find amazing is the sharp rise in asthma. When I grew up, out in the west, it was unheard of.
Today, we live, work and ride in sealed airconditioned boxes, without ever breathing fresh air. The system is never allowed to activate its natural defenses against foriegn substances, so when it does happen, the system is overwhelmed.

Another thing is houses with carpet, which is only perfectly clean the day it's installed. A virtual breeding ground for any number of tiny parasites.

Fresh air, exercise, and sunshine in moderation....Oh God, now I sound like Michelle Obama. Eat your peas.