The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

[docdandc]

Rest assured, there is plenty of room for all of the production reds in this world. Right next to the mash potatoes and gravy.

 

[melroseladi]

Penny

 

[melroseladi]

I have a couple of questions. The more I read the more confused I get about the red color a RIR should be.

1: I understand the dark mahogany color but is that the color that all lines of RIR should be? To me the SOP really is not clear about the actual shade of red the RIR should be.

2: At what age should we be looking for the correct black in the wings, etc.

3: I still can't grasp my mind around the under color. How do I look for it? Where do I look for it? Can somebody be kind enough to post pics of under color? I searched online for images but did not find any.

Penny

 

[Chloe77]

Rest assured, there is plenty of room for all of the production reds in this world. Right next to the mash potatoes and gravy.

Btw, I know this sounds crazy of me, but um, those birds I took pics of are New Hampshire Reds. My bad! I get the two breeds mixed up. Do my NHR's still look shabby?

 

[Rosecomb-Ryan]

Quote: Thank you! I really am excited to be working with Reds like these. Here is another photo of the same bird.

 

[Rosecomb-Ryan]

Bob maybe you can answer this for me (you talk to far more people than I do), Why are so many Red breeders breeding for low to no tail angle in there fowl?

I see pictures here, on the Red Club Site and at some of the shows I been to and I think that would be a real nice bird if it had correct tail angle.


Thanks,
Chris

I very much agree on this, This cockerel needs some work in the tail department. These are the first Reds I have worked with, so they are a work in progress.

 

[Fred's Hens]

Thank you! I really am excited to be working with Reds like these. Here is another photo of the same bird.

Gorgeous. Ha! Wish I had that "problem" of low tailed cockerels. We've got the opposite issue to work on. The type and color is so good on your bird.

 

[Chris09]

I very much agree on this, This cockerel needs some work in the tail department. These are the first Reds I have worked with, so they are a work in progress.

Breed him to hens that have very good tail angle or a little high and you should see a good improvement on his off-springs tails.

Chris

 

[Robert Blosl]

Ryan glad you found this site and I am impressed with your male. I would not drive yourself nuts over his tail angle. It will improve as a cock bird. I was just talking to one of the top large fowl judges in the poultry tonight and he agrees with me the old black and white pictures of the Reds are the best over the color ones. Tomorrow a lady is going to bring her camera and tripod and photograph some of our old large fowl males and then she is going to paint a colored painting of him. I am going to give her a copy of my old schilling male to use to com pair and between her artistic eye, the photograph and the the standard picture she should do a great job of this male.

She and I are running the Poultry Press table together and we will get a chance to talk. She also has some Rhode Island Red large fowl and will be fun to help her raise her birds as years go buy.

One thing on the tail angles and the picture in the old apa standards this is a 18 month old bird. It would be like having a picture of a 17 year old boy then looking at him at 24 there will be a difference in his size. The chickens fill out and their tail angle will move up. You have to issues with tail angles in large fowl either to high or to low. Its a trick to get them at the right level. Judges understand this and will cut for this but if the bird has all the other good points they will push this bird to Champion American and further if they can.

How many females do you have from this line you have? Any pictures of them?

Thanks for coming in. For those who are puzzled about the color of the R I Red the standard calls for a even color of red. You can not get this with a production red as the pigments is not there. You will have hens at two or three years of age that have five different shades of color. That is why in the 1920s the old Red Breeders figured in order to have a even color of Red they would have to go from the old bay horse color as you see in some old paintings to the darker version. This is why Lester Tompkins would not let his son have his Large Fowl Reds as he knew Harold would darken them up. He got some anyway and did this and that has been the trend ever since. If you go to the face book page you can see a batch of baby chicks and they are so dark but that is the true color of a Heritage R I Red baby chick. I saw some Red Females tonight where their legs where almost black they had so much color and their beaks where 100 % pure horn color. I will take pictures of them tomorrow and post them. Keep sending us pictures we need to see what others have. How about you people who got eggs and chicks this year your first year with Reds????

 

[MagicChicken]

Quote:
Usually it's ignorance, not fraud. Most people really don't know the difference.

Sarah