The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

[cmom]

The 2010 book is fine, it will tell you everything you need to know. The info in the book hasn't changed. If anything was changed it was only the newly recognized breeds and colors. When comparing I really didn't find any really noticeable differences That was the last book published prior to the book published the fist of this year. This is the newest book. It came out last spring. I pre-ordered mine before it was available through the APA. I was working on a much older version and decided it was time to update.

 

[waddles99]

The 2010 book is fine, it will tell you everything you need to know. The info in the book hasn't changed. If anything was changed it was only the newly recognized breeds and colors. When comparing I really didn't find any really noticeable differences That was the last book published prior to the book published the fist of this year. This is the newest book. It came out last spring. I pre-ordered mine before it was available through the APA. I was working on a much older version and decided it was time to update.

Thats the one I have. But according to @sgribble it isn't the newest one....

 

[sgribble]

Ok. I don't care what year you get the Rhode Island Red section is the same......that is the breed that most you have and unless you are raising some new breed like a Marans it doesn't matter......geeez....let's move forward with discussion about REDS and not nit pick this any further.......as Bob would say.......KISS.....!!

 

[Fred's Hens]

For heaven's sake. @sgribble and @cmom were right. The 2010 is NOT the latest edition. Scribble was simply replying to this wrong information.

The newest year is 2010

This (below) is the latest, newest edition is the 44th Edition, aka, the 2016 edition released early this year.




The reality is that the Red's standard hasn't changed in 70 years give or take, so any edition will do you just fine.

Further, If this thread is to be a place where experienced breeders can actually help, a lot whole more time needs to be spent actually LEARNING by 4H kids (and not just the standard). More time listening, with humility and a lot less time trying to impress others, because that just doesn't work and experienced folks aren't fooled. Otherwise, real breeders of Reds just go silent and just go away.

That too is reality.

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[waddles99]

Darn I should've gotten the 2016 one then

 

[bluebirdnanny]

Whichever book you have none compares to the mentorship of another great breeder followed by experience. If book learning isn't applied it is no good anyway!! Nothing beats a mentor who can handle your flock bird by bird and actually SHOW you on yours what under color etc means. Then you learn faster how to judge your flock individuals. Read then experience with someone who can SHOW you.

I am blessed to have Fred live within a days round trip from me. Spreading the wing and looking at the colors there didn't sink in until HE pulled it out on one of mine and pointed it out!! Made his choices as to which would qualify and which would not and WHY on each. Then you SPEND TIME with your birds and examine how the stand, posture etc. I've learned to look back and forth at the ones we banded then at one we did not until I see a difference in them I did not notice in the past.

Kinda like reading a description of white water rafting.... it is nothing like experiencing the real thing!! Reading gets you prepared..... asking questions of the experienced followed by your own experience over and over makes you a breeder with discretionary eye.

 

[waddles99]

For heaven's sake. @sgribble and @cmom were right. The 2010 is NOT the latest edition. Scribble was simply replying to this wrong information. This (below) is the latest, newest edition is the 44th Edition, aka, the 2016 edition released early this year. The reality is that the Red's standard hasn't changed in 70 years give or take, so any edition will do you just fine. Further, If this thread is to be a place where experienced breeders can actually help, a lot whole more time needs to be spent actually LEARNING by 4H kids (and not just the standard). More time listening, with humility and a lot less time trying to impress others, because that just doesn't work and experienced folks aren't fooled. Otherwise, real breeders of Reds just go silent and just go away. That too is reality. .

I really am sorry, everyone has been very knowledgeable on this thread and does know their stuff. It was my understanding that 2010 was the latest version but I guess I was way wrong. Sorry about that. The truth is I do really have a lot to learn, in no way am I ever trying to make it seem like I know more than I do. The fact is that I have only been keeping chickens for about 2 years and had Rhode Island Reds for a little over a year. I'm only 17 and have much to learn. To this day I only have 3 reds, all hens. And as much as I would enjoy to breed, I don't even own a RIR cockerel. Once again, I apologize for anyone who thought I sounded like a know it all. I am great full for everything you guys post, I learn a lot from this thread. I hope to continue to learn more from you guys and hope I didn't ruin my best resource for RIR information. Sorry

 

[Fred's Hens]

OK, so onward we go. Let's move on.

There is never a moment when we know it all. All of us keep learning, so let's keep at it.

Forget about it, let's keep "kicking' the can down the road", as this thread's founder used to say. Good advice that.

 

[waddles99]

Right, thanks for understanding.

On a different note, I have one of my first fall shows tomorrow! Super excited about that. I'm taking the bird in my avatar to it. Hopefully she does well. Makes getting up at 6:00 AM worth it

 

[cmom]

I finally got phase one of the sorting process done. All of the males are in their bachelor pens and the pullets in theirs depending on which family they are from. Now to sort for breeders and to match the males with the females. They still have a bit of growing out to do.