The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

[melroseladi]

What should I expect to pay for a good pair or trio at one of the shows? Is it best to contact breeders ahead of time to try and have them bring some or just see what is available for sale at the show? Sorry for the questions but I really, really want to be able to raise some of these fabulous birds and really could use any help I can get in finding some.

Also, I read there is someone in Callahan FL that breeds Mohawks, or did. Does anybody know if he still does or any contact info for him?

As always, thank you for all of your help.

 

[cmom]

There will be some Mohawks at the Lake City Show and I hope I can go as I have never been there. The Mohawks from the Illinois line and the half Florida and Illinois will be there and may have some extras for sale. This is my old line that I got from E W Reese who had them for about thirty years and he got them from Mrs. Donald Donaldson in Decatur Georgia who had them from 1912 to 1967. They are still pure and over 100 years old.

I am looking forward to getting some Mohawks as my birds are descendents of the Reese line. I want to continue that line. I love my birds. I have been breeding them for a couple of years now and want to improve my line. I may bring a couple of birds to show to see how they will place. I am planning on showing them first at the Central Florida Breeders Association Double Point Poultry Show Saturday November 10, 2012, in Inverness, FL. I just want to see how they will place and what the judges say about my birds.

 

[cmom]

In Florida these are the names of people who I have heard of. Brian Simmons of Callahan Florida these are the original Mohawks I started him out 17 years ago. Then Rip Stalvey he lives in south Florida a judge have not seen a red of his in 20 years. He got his from Mr. Reese like I did 27 years ago.

Next was a fellow named Barry Roberts great looking strain but he will not level with you where he got his start so we dont know if they have the old Reese blood in them or not but the look like they do. He might have sold some to this guy. Then there was a fellow selling out of the back of his truck which where the Roberts strain. They call him the chicken peddler. That is all of the folks I know of who have large fowl Reds in Florida. The Bill Bennett line is from Georgia but I dont think he shows so they are not his. What you need to do is pick a line you like and go with that line. If you cross the two lines you will have a mess on your hands.

If you folks really have honest to goodness Mohawks which only can come from Brian Simmons or Greg Chamniss in Illinois or Paul in Colorado do not cross anything into your line unless you know they came from these breeders. There is a new strain of pure Mohawks in my region about twenty miles from me that are pure Florida and pure Illinois line and he has about 20 chicks that are half and half.

If you got Mohawks you are in desperate need to get some of these half and half's. The reason is they are getting way to inbreed with out new fresh blood. The hatching ration is proof of this.

So after five years I have handled some wonder full cross strain chicks and any one who gets these chicks and blends them in to their lines will be set for ten more good years of Vitality.

If you have the Don Nelson Line do not cross anything into them other than his birds or New York's Reds which are pure Nelson. New York Reds is a perfect source for large fowl Reds for people who live in the Mid West and the North or North East. Dont get a Red from Florida and think they are going to do great in below 0 weather. It will take three years of breeding to get them a custom to this cold climate and dont think birds from the North will enjoy being in this heat and humidity of the South it will take three years to adjust to our climate.

Well that's all I a going to write about. Nice color on all the birds. Just watch the tails as you guys pick your breeders for next year. Some are weak in tail furnishing some may have to much tail. But if that is all you got you have to breed with these. I don't think many of you plan to show your large fowl reds so its not a big issue if you just have them for person looks. At least you have the real McCoys and not my favorite reds the cherry eager's. bob

 

[sgribble]

What should I expect to pay for a good pair or trio at one of the shows? Is it best to contact breeders ahead of time to try and have them bring some or just see what is available for sale at the show? Sorry for the questions but I really, really want to be able to raise some of these fabulous birds and really could use any help I can get in finding some.

Also, I read there is someone in Callahan FL that breeds Mohawks, or did. Does anybody know if he still does or any contact info for him?

As always, thank you for all of your help.

You can forget getting any from the guy in Callahan,very rarely does he sell anything,if you can even get in touch with him.

 

[henpeckedmuch]

I have been quoted prices for trios from two of the major lines by major breeders (I dislike to mention their names as I have not asked permission) The birds are to to be picked up at Lucasville. These birds, both cockerels and pullets will be shown in the show. The lowest quote was $100.00 for a trio. The other was $100.00 a bird. I have been told by others on this forum that $60.00 to $100.00 a trio would be about right. ---

 

[immyjay54]

I just have to let you all know that I got my first egg from my Don Nelson pullets today. Shocked me about to death. They are 24 weeks 1 day old today. Gosh, that's not even 6 months. I wasn't expecting them to start for another couple of months. I am so excited. I truly do love these birds.

 

[Robert Blosl]

As the fall shows approach one can find Heritage RIR pullets and cockerels for sale at shows from breeders. I like to do this because you can assess fully grown young birds yourself, don't have to raise a bunch of birds and then deal with culling them later. I'm going to the Ohio Lucasville show In October to do just that this year. You can contact breeders with well established lines have them bring you some birds and meet them at large or major shows.
Or wait till spring / early summer and have them send you chicks. Some people think this is the cheap way to go. I don't believe it. 1st- 1/2 of the chicks will be roosters. 2nd- some of them will die. 3rd you will have to feed them for 6months or more at $16.00 a bag to see if you have any show worthy birds. Then you will have the heart breaking task of getting rid of the birds you don't want to keep. To me it is much cheaper to just buy 3 or 4 birds that you know are right for you. Breed them and find someone with an incubator to hatch your eggs for you. A women that lives near me said she would do it for nothing if she had eggs of her own to hatch at the same time.

I know of no one that sells quality Heritage chicks at this time of the year. And many breeders never sell eggs, but do sell chicks.
The above is my opinion only but, I feel it is worth more than you will have to pay for it.

Thats imposable New York Reds must have crossed cheery eggers into his line. Heritage Reds are not suppose to lay till they are eight to nine months old say the cherry egger people thats why you dont want Heritage chickens as they take to long to lay so the cherry egger people say. Congratulations to the Don Nelson line.

I crossed speckled Sussex into my line said the boys in Ohio when they saw my birds 20 years ago. I never said anything but I never crossed nothing as I only had the reds on my place. Why people make such innuendos in the first place.

New York Reds I dont think you know what a cherry egger is so I guess the line is still 100% Yankee Rhode Island Reds. Great line you folks in the North need some.

 

[immyjay54]

Thats imposable New York Reds must have crossed cheery eggers into his line. Heritage Reds are not suppose to lay till they are eight to nine months old say the cherry egger people thats why you dont want Heritage chickens as they take to long to lay so the cherry egger people say. Congratulations to the Don Nelson line.

I crossed speckled Sussex into my line said the boys in Ohio when they saw my birds 20 years ago. I never said anything but I never crossed nothing as I only had the reds on my place. Why people make such innuendos in the first place.

New York Reds I dont think you know what a cherry egger is so I guess the line is still 100% Yankee Rhode Island Reds. Great line you folks in the North need some.

These were not the ones from NYREDS, they are the ones from dinahmoe that she got from the guy that gets them directly from Don Nelson. These birds are totally alone without any other birds so this egg could not have come from any other chickens. lol
Hey Bob, go to my site and click on the Don Nelson line RIR page and take a look at them. These hens are gorgeous. They are the first ones on the top part of the page.

 

[cmom]

I just have to let you all know that I got my first egg from my Don Nelson pullets today. Shocked me about to death. They are 24 weeks 1 day old today. Gosh, that's not even 6 months. I wasn't expecting them to start for another couple of months. I am so excited. I truly do love these birds.

My birds are nearly 28 weeks and no eggs yet...

 

[cmom]

I have been quoted prices for trios from two of the major lines by major breeders (I dislike to mention their names as I have not asked permission) The birds are to to be picked up at Lucasville. These birds, both cockerels and pullets will be shown in the show. The lowest quote was $100.00 for a trio. The other was $100.00 a bird. I have been told by others on this forum that $60.00 to $100.00 a trio would be about right. ---

I saw some last year at one of the shows for $75.00 a trio. I almost bought them but wasn't sure of the line and I want to keep my line intact.