The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[aveca]

you really wont know if gold is hiding unless you give it a try...i understand lavander breeds pretty true so lav split to lav split should = lav ..think thats correct..somone will correct me if im wrong...you have to keep telling yourself no shape, no orp..

The Black English Cockerel I will use with the lavender pullets comes from imported BBS lines not sure what line though someone in Virginia imported them I think.
I wonder if my Black English Cockerel carries the silver gene ( i think it is called) or the gold gene....the breeder I got him from bought her stock from a BBS breeder that bought some stock from the person that imported them to Virginia. (if that makes sence) anyway the breeder I got my black cockerel from has been breeding them for a few years but only breeds blacks to blacks as far as I know so I wonder even though his most recent background (his parents and grandparents) were black does he still carry the silver gene from when they were first imported?

the reason I want to know is because I don't want my lavenders that I will get when I cross the F1 splits together to have gold leakage...or should I even be worring about that right now...should I just forget about the color faults for now and just go for type only for a few generations then work on getting the color right again?

 

[thedragonlady]

Ok...you guys have convinced me...I am going to cull the lavender roosters and cull the hens pretty hard down to 4-5 good meaty pullets...put them in with my Black English boy and go from there.

Great ! While doing this pay extra attention to feather quality. You want broad, heavy feathers. Pluck a few from the bad ones , and look at them in the light. Not what you want. You want those wide, closely barbed feathers, that shut out rain.You will see a difference, if you compare. Lots of dilute critters have coat/ feather problems. You have to be diligent to over come this.

 

[choptank330]

My girl "Blue" We just love her to death. My daughters favorite Almost 5 months old.. And my biggest girl in my flock

 

[galanie]

The Black English Cockerel I will use with the lavender pullets comes from imported BBS lines not sure what line though someone in Virginia imported them I think. 

I wonder if my Black English Cockerel carries the silver gene ( i think it is called)  or the gold gene....the breeder I got him from bought her stock from a BBS breeder that bought some stock from the person that imported them to Virginia. (if that makes sence) anyway the breeder I got my black cockerel from has been breeding them for a few years but only breeds blacks to blacks as far as I know so I wonder even though his most recent background (his parents and grandparents) were black does he still carry the silver gene from when they were first imported?


the reason I want to know is because I don't want my lavenders that I will get when I cross the F1 splits together to have gold leakage...or should I even be worring about that right now...should I just forget about the color faults for now and just go for type only for a few generations then work on getting the color right again?

Go for it! Chances are, you'll be safe. Worst case scenario, you'll be no worse off than anyone else. Really I'd go for type. You can always cull for color. And will be, and lots, regardless of leakage.
People around here have this saying that I just want to hurl every time I hear it, but it's so true: Build the barn, then paint it. You have the lavender gene. Build the barn (type), keeping that gene around, and then worry about color more.

 

[galanie]

My girl "Blue" We just love her to death. My daughters favorite Almost 5 months old.. And my biggest girl in my flock

Two Three cuties!

 

[choptank330]

Two Three cuties!

HaHa!! Thank You

 

[Lots A Cluckin]

Quote: Thank you...I will go fir type for the next few generations then I will work on the color.

Quote: Thank you

Quote: yeah that is the problem I am having with my lavender roosters most of the hens have nice feathers.

 

[Lots A Cluckin]

ok...I went out and really looked over my lavender pullets and picked the best 4 out of 11....I looked for size, width of thier back, and chest and also how much they wheigh. These 4 all wheigh right around 6.5 lbs. the others weigh 5.5- 6.0 lbs. I know that is not very big but it is the biggest lav pullets I currently have and they are still pretty young (6 months) so they have a little bit of growing left. But it is a start, I'll put those 4 pullets in with the Black English Cockerel when they start laying (any day now) and we'll see what we get.


Pullet #1

Please dont mind the ridiculously dirty brooder box top she is standing on...that is comming out of the coop Saturday...that has been thier "roost" for the past 8 weeks or so since all of the babies grew out of it....good thing it is just plywood that can be easily replaced.

Pullet #2

Pullet #3

Pulelt #4 not the most pretty one but she is a good weight and size

Pullet #2 and #3 their skirt is pretty wide too.

 

[Lots A Cluckin]

oops! double post

 

[thedragonlady]

ok...I went out and really looked over my lavender pullets and picked the best 4 out of 11....I looked for size, width of thier back, and chest and also how much they wheigh. These 4 all wheigh right around 6.5 lbs. the others weigh 5.5- 6.0 lbs. I know that is not very big but it is the biggest lav pullets I currently have and they are still pretty young (6 months) so they have a little bit of growing left. But it is a start, I'll put those 4 pullets in with the Black English Cockerel when they start laying (any day now) and we'll see what we get.


Pullet #1

Please dont mind the ridiculously dirty brooder box top she is standing on...that is comming out of the coop Saturday...that has been thier "roost" for the past 8 weeks or so since all of the babies grew out of it....good thing it is just plywood that can be easily replaced.

Pullet #2

Pullet #3

Pulelt #4 not the most pretty one but she is a good weight and size

Pullet #2 and #3 their skirt is pretty wide too.

You'll certainly improve the type. Maybe add some size too. Go for it !