The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

going to be so interesting to watch what deveolp putting the blacks n jubilees interesting to see a couple generations in......roger, shes fantastic..she carries herself with that, im good and i know it look..!
 
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Just wondering what one would get if they crossed a Jubilee Orp with a Black Orp
I've used this cross many times, Jubilee rooster over English black hens and so far I've only produced all blacks. But hopefully next year I will either have some mottles or more blacks, time will tell. I've also noticed this cross produces so huge offsprings!
 
Jubilee X Black will produce (in theory) all Black chicks recessively carrying the Mottling (and a few other) genes.

You can cross the pullets back to their fathers to get birds that will be Mottled and some that might even look a bit like Jubilees. The resulting Mottled birds might show some read leakage due to the Mahogany genes that the Jubilees have. If you want to breed for a solid Black Mottled bird you would want to select against any with leakage.

The Blacks will be carrying the same genes the Jubilees have they will just be hidden inside, it will take a few generations of breeding back to their sires to coax the right genes out and produce a true Jubilee colored bird again.

This is a great way to outcross and improve your gene pool while working on bettering different qualities in your line. It will take a few generations to get back to where you started but it will be well worth it.

Don't be afraid to outcross to Blue too... keep that Blue gene in the birds and eventually you'll have Blue Jubilees! The same can be said for Chocolate too, Jubilee X Chocolate with the right back breeding will eventually produce a Chocolate Jubilee colored bird.
 
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Jubilee X Black will produce (in theory) all Black chicks recessively carrying the Mottling (and a few other) genes.

You can cross the pullets back to their fathers to get birds that will be Mottled and some that might even look a bit like Jubilees. The resulting Mottled birds might show some read leakage due to the Mahogany genes that the Jubilees have. If you want to breed for a solid Black Mottled bird you would want to select against any with leakage.

The Blacks will be carrying the same genes the Jubilees have they will just be hidden inside, it will take a few generations of breeding back to their sires to coax the right genes out and produce a true Jubilee colored bird again.

This is a great way to outcross and improve your gene pool while working on bettering different qualities in your line. It will take a few generations to get back to where you started but it will be well worth it.

Don't be afraid to outcross to Blue too... keep that Blue gene in the birds and eventually you'll have Blue Jubilees! The same can be said for Chocolate too, Jubilee X Chocolate with the right back breeding will eventually produce a Chocolate Jubilee colored bird.
Great information Jeremy!
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Hinkjc was working on jubilee orps for several years. There are threads here all about their progress and what they got generation after generation. All of that work was pretty much forgotten about when Greenfire imported some.
 
Hinkjc was working on jubilee orps for several years. There are threads here all about their progress and what they got generation after generation. All of that work was pretty much forgotten about when Greenfire imported some.

Then they gave the project up.
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Jeremy, I appreciate all the hard work you put in to studying genetic. Thank you... It helps many of us!
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Quote: I don't know- they just stopped posting updates. I had been watching their progress for so long, and then when the news about the imports came out....I was really sad for them. Maybe they are still doing it. Would be nice to have them in American type as well.
It didn't seem like they were in it for the money either- they really had a ton of work into them.
Will see if I can find a fresh thread later, but we have people coming for geese in a few....
 

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