The Legbar Thread!

[ChicKat]

That's smart GaryDean26-- Thanks for Eggs 101 and..... The naming convention ideas.

I'm also wondering, as you suggest that the non-standard Cream Legbars keep the term Crested,...what if it gets added back into the cream legbar. So were there to be a standard of perfection for these birds in the USA....they would be Crested (fill in the color--cream, gold, silver, white--- or if you have discovered yet another smokey) legbar.

Interesting too that each of these breeds would have to have blue-egg layer genetics, and -- the UK has both tails and crests on Araucanas, as well as rumpless and tufted, I think..... So having differences on either side of the pond wouldn't be new......

How does one go about getting a breed recognized... ?

 

[GaryDean26]

How does one go about getting a breed recognized... ?

I don't know if you can access this link, but here is a list of what must be done for a breed to be accpeted into the APA standards. If you can't open this link let me know and I will post it to the files on the Cream Legbar Yahoo group or send it to you via email.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0MTPTw... for Admission of New Breeds or Varieties.doc


Some of the main points are that:

1) A pettion to APA including the background and history of the breed, breed standards, breed facts, educational information etc. has to be submitted.

2) The breed as a whole in the USA has to produce at least 50% to standard. White Crested Legbars, Silver Crested Legbars, Gold Crested Legbars, non-crested hens, severly floppy combed roosters, etc. that come from standard colored cream leagbars all count against that 50% (although I think we are breeding true well above 50% from what I have seen in my small flock).

3) A qaulifying meet has to be held with a minimum of 50 birds present with 5 entries each of the standard breed catagory (i.e. Hens, Pullets, Cockerels, Cocks).

I think that it will be a few years untill anyone needs to push for breed recognition. We need to work on establishing and promote them right now. The recongition will come later.

 

[madamwlf]

With your white legbar project, how have you been breeding them? Only white to white? Or do you mix a white with a regular? If the latter, how many come out looking white?

I'm curious because I have a white cockerel and a traditional, crested pullet and I'm curious what combinations I could get. It'll be a while- the pullet is just starting to have her voice change from chirp to cluck.

None of my whites are old enough to breed yet.

 

[Hangtown Farms]

where do Legbar's get there crest's

 

[GaryDean26]

Quote:
The cresting came from a blue egg laying Chilean hen. Punnett's accounts of this hen are below. The full articles are in the files of the Cream Legbar Breeders Yahoo group. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/CreamLegbarBreeders/

"In the Summer of 1930 I acquired three Chilean hens through the kindness of Mr. Claude Elliot who had brought them over directly from Chile. They were evident mongrels at sight, differing widely in plumage colours and structural feathers. One died soon after arrival, but the two survivors both laid blue eggs. Though it was late in the season I managed to rear a few chicks (5 male and 2 female) from one of the hens, a nondescript yellow, mated with a gold-penciled Hamburg cock." (R.C. Punnett, Journal of Genetics, Vol. XXVII, No. 3, “Genetic Studies in Poultry; The Blue Egg”, 1933)

"Thirteen years ago I recorded some experiments dealing with blue egg colour derived from certain hens imported from Chile (Punnett, 1933). In the course of these experiments an unknown type of plumage colour made its appearance, and it is with this that the following brief account deals. In tracing the heredity of the egg colour a Chilean hen of a nondescript light yellowish brown appearance was mated with a Gold-Penciled Hamburg cock. The F1 birds were all gold with irregular penciling. In a small F2 generation bred subsequently there appeared some birds with a very pale creamy ground colour in addition to those of the normal gold type." (R.C. Punnett, Journal of Genetics, Vol. 48, No. 3, “Genetic Studies in Poultry; Cream Plumage”, 1948)

 

[Johnn]

Just thaught id let every one know, Melow is now broody!

 

[boykin2010]

Just thaught id let every one know, Melow is now broody!

My hen went broody too! Just for a couple days, but then I stopped her. She is now back to laying and acting normal Thankfully!

 

[blackbirds13]

My hen went broody too! Just for a couple days, but then I stopped her. She is now back to laying and acting normal Thankfully!

Lucky...I''m not ready for a broody hen. Took me a month to get mine back to laying....Then the Ameraucanas went broody and it was a total waste of eggs...but selling those off as soon as i get a buyer on Craigslist.
I've had some Legbar inquiries from cragislist and I might sell one of my pullet chicks. Not sure what to ask...Pricing is difficult here in Sothtern New Hampshire. Gotta keep it low enough but high enough... I was thinking $50 but is that too low or too high? My husband says I should go higher but how much can SoNH market bare? I cannot imagine anyone paying over $50 around here and I'm not yet ready to ship birds.I gotta think about this for a bit.

I might do it just to test the market but I don't think I'll sell anymore until I have hatched out the eggs in the incubator just to make sure i have enough of my own.

 

[The Sheriff]

My girl got that broody business out of the way early. She will 2 months old tomorrow and her "babies" just turned 5 weeks old.

 

[Johnn]