If you read the information on cream legbars in the UK you will notice that their "standard" is not what we have here in the US. Are we doing our own thing with the more brightly colored birds or trying to duplicate theirs? I think for the most part we all got ours from the Greenfire imports. Makes me wonder if those imported birds were some of the ones the UK breeders are discussing where they have too much gold and orange. Any thoughts?