The Legbar Thread!

[KPenley]

the reason for Dark males is not the lack of Homozygosity on the sex linked barring gene(double barring) this trait(dark males) is still a big mistery, it could be related to other genes like red enhancers, but we just dont know, thats why I am begging him to record and take pics of this boy as he mature. I really doubt he is dark because he is not homozygous for the barring gene as I have yet to see a none barred CCL on this forum from you guys..

Ah, thanks for the clarification.
I got excited because of all that grey fluff Heather lol. Maybe it was the flash but I thought he was lighter than he appeared in the pics. Sticking with the lighter fluff still looks like it turns into better less red birds in the long run, but we shall see. Can't wait for update pics.

 

[babymakes6]

Quote: I had two hatch last fall like him. One was culled immediately for cross-beak, the other died at about 6-8 weeks old. I did mark him so I could watch him, and he was much darker than the other males. He looked a lot like my Barred Rocks that were the same age.

Would you advise using him to breed to a cream girl as well?

 

[nicalandia]

Would you advise using him to breed to a cream girl as well?

let just see how he turns out before I can make any advise. just keep track of him and post pics

 

[babymakes6]

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[normanack]

thats a male and a dark one... I would love for you to band this boy and see how he turns out. so we know how dark males look when matured

Is the connection we're looking for (and I'm assuming this is the case) between light/dark down as an indication of light/dark adult coloration?

Would this also apply to a dark brown male chick (vs. the charcoal-gray here)?

In other words, are we looking for dark gray down becoming a dark gray bird, and dark brown down becoming a dark brown bird -- or just dark down in general indicating a dark adult, not necessarily a particular color?

Do you think Candace's photo series of chicks to adults sheds some light on the issue? And I think Curtis has kept this kind of photo record; let me see if I can provide links. . .

Or am I simply befuddled?

 

[SusanRenee]

Thanks for all of the replies! I will get a member page set up for him and take weekly pictures. It won't be hard to do since he's the only CCL. We have named him Han Solo... seemed appropriate as the solo CCL chick! Now I just need a female chick to name Princess Leia

 

[Thespoiledchicken]

let just see how he turns out before I can make any advise. just keep track of him and post pics

Can't wait to see what he will look like as an adult!

 

[GaryDean26]

These dark cockerels are NOT a mystery. We have photo progression dark, light, and even medium colored cockerels in the US that were tracked for 10 months.

The difference in down color is mostly due to the Legbar lines have multiple wild type e-loci. Yep... there are multiple e-loci that produced the wild type plumage and the Legbars were created with two wild-type e-loci (and who know what else has been introduce since then). Color modifiers do come into play but are not the what is causing the wide color varriation we are seeing in the USA.

 

[babymakes6]

These dark cockerels are NOT a mystery. We have photo progression dark, light, and even medium colored cockerels in the US that were tracked for 10 months.

The difference in down color is mostly due to the Legbar lines have multiple wild type e-loci. Yep... there are multiple e-loci that produced the wild type plumage and the Legbars were created with two wild-type e-loci (and who know what else has been introduce since then). Color modifiers do come into play but are not the what is causing the wide color varriation we are seeing in the USA.

Where can we find these photos, Curtis?

 

[GaryDean26]

I just sent them too you. I can't send a PDF through the PM on BYC or post a PDF on the BYC so the files aren't here, but I have sent them to a dozen BYC members that have sent me email address as well as posted them on the Cream Legbar Breeders Yahoo group and the Cream Legbar Breeders Facebook pages.