The Legbar Thread!
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I think it depends on the bloodline. I have 8 chicks and they all have different size crests. There are 3 different blood lines in that bunch.
I am really facinated by the yellow chicks that have came out.
After thinking about this for a day and seeing all the clarifications and photos the only think that this reminds me of from things I have learned about from studying the Marans Breed is the resessive white gene.
One of the main lines of Black copper Marans in the USA was inmported with the resessive white gene. Yellow sports would pop out with the probablility of 1:300 in this line. At first people were culling the yellow chicks because they assume they were impure. Thom Dean (no relation) started collecting these sports and discoved that they had ressessive white. He created a beutiful flock of White Marans that were genetically Black Copper Marans. When they were breed back to unrelated Black Copper Marans all the offspring was the black copper coloring and the off-spring when on with the resessive gene in the line. However when the resessive White Marans were breed to another resessive White Marans all of the off spring came out white.
The resessive white is not a color pattern, but something that inhibated the formation of color in the feathers. Today these resesive white flocks are often refered to as mutant black copper marans or mutant self white marans.
If these Cream Legbars have the the same thing going on, then they may look line my CockinxSilkyx White Leghorn mix. White with a crest.
Also...the Golden Legbars don't have golden chick down. They look just like the cream legbars when they hatch with the females having the chipmonk striped and the boys coming out with blurred striping and white spots on their heads. I hatched a pair of "Golden Legbars" from a breeder in my area that has been working over 5 year on recreating the line from brown leghorns and barred Plymoth Rocks. The adults look just like a cream legbar only with out the cresting and gold colored hackels on the hens rather than cream color. Below is a photo of my "Golen Legbar" Pullet. I also pulled up photos of the Golden Legbars in the UK and they look the same.
After thinking about this for a day and seeing all the clarifications and photos the only think that this reminds me of from things I have learned about from studying the Marans Breed is the resessive white gene.
One of the main lines of Black copper Marans in the USA was inmported with the resessive white gene. Yellow sports would pop out with the probablility of 1:300 in this line. At first people were culling the yellow chicks because they assume they were impure. Thom Dean (no relation) started collecting these sports and discoved that they had ressessive white. He created a beutiful flock of White Marans that were genetically Black Copper Marans. When they were breed back to unrelated Black Copper Marans all the offspring was the black copper coloring and the off-spring when on with the resessive gene in the line. However when the resessive White Marans were breed to another resessive White Marans all of the off spring came out white.
The resessive white is not a color pattern, but something that inhibated the formation of color in the feathers. Today these resesive white flocks are often refered to as mutant black copper marans or mutant self white marans.
If these Cream Legbars have the the same thing going on, then they may look line my CockinxSilkyx White Leghorn mix. White with a crest.
Also...the Golden Legbars don't have golden chick down. They look just like the cream legbars when they hatch with the females having the chipmonk striped and the boys coming out with blurred striping and white spots on their heads. I hatched a pair of "Golden Legbars" from a breeder in my area that has been working over 5 year on recreating the line from brown leghorns and barred Plymoth Rocks. The adults look just like a cream legbar only with out the cresting and gold colored hackels on the hens rather than cream color. Below is a photo of my "Golen Legbar" Pullet. I also pulled up photos of the Golden Legbars in the UK and they look the same.
I have two pullets from the same Greenfire line. One is much darker than the other. I think this is due to the original bloodlines from the UK being crossed in the USA. I am certain that there was a line line that produced smaller darker legbars with the waxy cresting on the hens, and one that produced a larger lighter color legbar with the fluffy cresting on the hens. I don't think that the color of Madamwlf pullets is indicative of a resesive color pattern bleeding though. Especialy since the color patter that the Cream legbar is build on is one of the most ressecive color patterns in chickens and anything that is resesive to it is not a color that would be noticable if it bled through. I am sticking with this being some like resesive white the impedes color rather that a resesive color pattern that has poped out.
Also, to reply to another comment, all the Cream Legbars should have cresting, but one out my 3 months old still hasn't crested. She is not correct to the English Standard.
Also, to reply to another comment, all the Cream Legbars should have cresting, but one out my 3 months old still hasn't crested. She is not correct to the English Standard.
My guess is that you aren't going to send her back to Greenfire? You could probably sell a lot of her eggs to people on this forum with all the interest in these chicks!
BLaBauve
The chicks in that picture should be a poster---or at the very least a card. Nice shot! What beautiful chicks.
The chicks in that picture should be a poster---or at the very least a card. Nice shot! What beautiful chicks.
SO PRECIOUS!
I am so happy- I finally got the chick to eat and drink! I think he will be fine now, he stills has a band aid on his legs for spraddle but they look perfect now and he is walking perfect
Ok- you guys ready for lots of pics
they are 2 days old now and look different already. I believe I may have 2 girls and a boy.
The one in front I think is a boy- you can see the light patch on his head. He also has a creamier color down and the 2 girls have more yellow.
Boy in the back
Boy with the band aid
I think this is a girl
Madamwlf- VERY INTERESTING what Greenfire Farms said!
I also think you will not be sending back that girl, lol.
Anyone see anything different in the pics?
Trish
Ok- you guys ready for lots of pics
The one in front I think is a boy- you can see the light patch on his head. He also has a creamier color down and the 2 girls have more yellow.
Boy in the back
Boy with the band aid
I think this is a girl
Madamwlf- VERY INTERESTING what Greenfire Farms said!
I also think you will not be sending back that girl, lol.
Anyone see anything different in the pics?
Trish
- Feb 17, 2012
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Aww adorable pictures! Thank you for posting them. Here is a pic of my new crew- sorry slightly blurry they kept moving so it was hard to get a good one.I am pretty sure it is 2 boys and 3 girls.
Now for the yellow one- any ideas?
Now for the yellow one- any ideas?
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