The Migratory/Ornamental Waterfowl INFO Thread

[KansasKid]

No there are lots more. sorry i forgot why i had looked that file up in the first place and didn't realize that i had overlooked the fact that the species listed on there are ones that families have been stated in the MBTA or documented in the U.S. but are still excluded and aren't protected. I'll edit my last post to make it clear as to what the pdf. is about. other wise all the "exotic species" or non-natives are protected. Sorry i probably just made it more confusing.

 

[roocrazy]

are there any more kind of teal

 

[KansasKid]

The best way to figure out if there not protected or not is to go to the U.S. fish and wildlife page and look under birds protected by MBTA and depending on what type of computer you have control or command F or whatever way you have to search the individual page for a species that you want. Be careful though when searching, sometimes you have to try common names and scientific. Again sorry for the confusion earlier, confused myself there for a while too.

I'll look again through my files because i could have swore that i had a page that stated all that weren't protected.


http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/RegulationsPolicies/mbta/mbtandx.html

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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there's 20 plus species of teal


all the species I listed a few pages back require the Fed permit, if they arent list there, you dont have to have it. In short, if it is native to North America you have to have the permit for it. it's ruffly 45 species on the list, give or take a few odd balls

here's a short (LOL) list of stuff you dont need permits for

chilean teal
brazilian teal
sharpwing teal
hottentot teal
silver teal
puna teal
marble teal
cape teal
chestnut breasted teal
ring teal
grey teal
brown teal
adaman teal
campell island teal
madagascar teal
new zealand brown teal

Pochards

rosey bill
southern
all the white eyes (there's more than 1)
red crested
new zealand scaup
madagascar


scaley sided mergansers
brazilian mergansers

tree ducks
javan
wandering
eyton's
spot
white faced

mandarins
chiloe widgeon
indian spotbill
african black duck
argentina shoveler
cape shoveler
new zealand shoveler
phillipine duck
red bill pintail
chliean pintail
south georgia pintail
chinese spot
argentine ruddy duck
white back duck
white head duck
australian blue bill duck
black head
maccoa duck
musk duck
african yellow bill
hartlaubs
bronze wing
all 3 pygmy geese (yes they are really a duck)
pink ear duck
old and new world comb duck
freckled duck
new zealand greys
patagonian crested duck
pink headed duck

shelducks
ruddy
cape
european
paradise
radjah
australian


I'm sure there's a few I forgot, those are just off the top of my head

yep forgot about all the steamers too

falkland island
flying
magellan
white headed

and there are also white water species
torrent duck
salvadori's duck
and blue duck


not sure about the hawaiian
meller's
and mottled

most likely they are on the list, same with the white wing wood duck and laysan teal just because they are endangered

then theres a hole world of migratory/ornamental geese too

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

figured while I was at it, might as well do a FULL list of the ones that do require the federal permit too

tree duck

black belly
fulvous
cuban

teal
baikal
green wing
european green wing
blue wing
cinnamon
gargany
falcated
laysan

pintail
northern
bahama

muscovy
wood duck
white wing wood duck

american black
american widgeon
european widgeon
gadwall
northern shoveler
masked duck
mottled duck
hawaiian duck



divers


baer's pochard
common pochard
canvasback
greater scaup
lesser scaup
ring neck
tufted
red head
ruddy

merganser
hooded
smew
red breasted
american

eider
common
king
spectacled
steller's

scoter

black
white wing
surf

and the harlequin
old squaw
american golden eye
barrow's golden eye
bufflehead

 

[roocrazy]

WoW. that helped me so much!!!!!!!

thank you ssssoooooo MUCH!!!!!!

this is cool i cant wait to get some in the spring... i loove proving my dad wrong

 

[exoticduckluvr]

are we sure permits aren't required for the White-faced Whistlers??? I have permits on mine

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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yep, they used to be for years, they were recently removed as they are an African speices and had no place being on a North American species permit list and are no longer protected under the MBTA, the cubans were added though....

 

[KansasKid]

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if you look at my post on page 71, #709 and look at the pdf. file it gives a short list of ones that are not longer protected by the MBTA and white-faced are on there.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yep, if you're ever bored and have time to look threw some 830 or so species, here's the link to the MBTA species list of all protected bird species in North America. It doesnt take long, really, they are listed by species groups, duck, merganser, pintail, widgeon, terns, swans, goose, egret, etc
Just look for the alphabetical species name you are looking for, and it will have all the species of that group listed right there for you. In our case we are just looking for the swans, geese, and various duck speices, so doesnt take long to run threw them.

In the case of the tree duck (listed as whistlers), there are just the 3 I mentioned, black belly, fulvous, and cuban (east indies)


here's their link

http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/RegulationsPolicies/mbta/mbtandx.html