The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

Need your advice! I have 2 girls in sick bay in the garage--1 Red Star (7 months) & 1 Faverolle (18 weeks). I ferment my feed with UN/ACV, water, garlic, oregano and alfalfa nuggets. Once a week they get leftover veggies from our local health food store as well as any leftovers from our kitchen.

Sunday night, the Fav was acting droopy, puffed up, sleeping while standing. Her eyes are dull and she had green poop not diarrhea--well formed. She was not eating or drinking much. I'm thinking it's cocci. We've had a lot of wet then hot weather lately which has made the run rather muddy. Unfortunately due to a predator threat, the flock has had to spend a lot more time in the pen. I started her on Corid Sunday night. I've been giving her scrambled egg w/garlic & oregano and a little plain yogurt plus dry feed. Tonight she ate like a pig. We let her outside for some fresh air & sunshine--80's today in Maine! She ran around, ate some grass, squawked a little, still sleeping standing up but acted much perkier than the last 2 days. Any thoughts or advice?

The Red Star was acting lethargic Monday a.m. She stayed on the roost when I opened the coop. When she did go into the pen to eat, she was getting picked on by 1 hen then 2 others joined in the fun. I broke it up and brought her into the garage as well. She is keeping 1 of her eyes closed--the lid looks white.She does open it occaisionally. I can't see anything in it. She does not like me touching it so I'm not sure if it's sore or she just doesn't like me poking at her. The other eye looks good. She also is not standing straight up to walk more like a duck waddle then sits. She has no discharge from eyes or nares, breathing is normal. After doing some research, I'm thinking it could be sinus? I have given her 2 Oxine vaporizer treatments in an enclosed dog crate--last night & tonight about an hour each. Tonight she laid an egg during her vaporizer treatment first 1 since Monday. She is also getting scrambled egg w/garlic & oregano and a little plain yogurt plus dry feed. ACV & Garlic in her water. She pooped while she was outside not much but she hasn't eaten much so...have a **GRAPHIC POOP** picture---does this look like a worm? It was not moving. Again any thoughts/advice are welcome! Thank you!!



no one, especially a qualified veterinarian, will make a diagnosis based on a picture. Save yourself much time and find out who you talk to in your state for testing, make arrangements for a sample to be properly collected, preserved, and transported to your state diagnostic lab for a reliable diagnosis. If you have no vet that sees your birds, see what help or advice for medication is available through your state veterinarian's office. If you have regular testing done(NPIP), call your inspector for advice. Different worms have different vectors and even those vary between species of birds. If you still don't quite know where to start, call your county extension agent, explain your problem, and they will likely get you hooked up with the right people. There is more to ridding a premises of certain parasitic infestations than simple medication. Sometimes there are things you can or should do to eradicate the vectors (things that spread/host the parasites). If you can see this much visible to the naked eye, it is a severe infestation. (If it is worms, I have never seen worms so I am no expert, ..but it is something for sure) It may be quickly and easily remedied, but you will need a conclusive veterinary diagnosis. Good luck! Your birds might all be unwell because of this. You might be treating for something you do not have. Save some money, save treating for this and that..and guessing.. and take a sample in.
 
They probably just laughed and talked about it at conferences etc. That is really funny though.....

And I confess... I haven't caught up yet. But just had to reply to that one. Imagine the egg going through all that security and travel in a pocket without breaking!!!
 
For all of you who have experience with turkeys... some questions.
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-If I wanted to raise one or 2 for meat, how old are they at processing?
-Is chicken and turkey feed basically the same - or are there different nutritional needs?
-Is processing about the same as with chickens? Bleed, dunk, pluck, gut?

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I have a few turkey questions too.
When should I clip their wings and how often?
Will they try to escape over my 4 ft fenced in yard?
How much roosting space is needed for 3 turkeys if the toms get to be around 30-33 pounds? I'm thinking of tossing a temporary lean to in our back yard with one roosting bar.
Are the turkeys more likely to get attacked than a chicken.

I'm getting 3 turkey poults in May as there is a group from Indiana placing an order so I can save on shipping and get just 3. Back to Leah's Mom's processing questions, if the poults come in May would they be ready to process by Thanksgiving? Would they be too tough for Christmas dinner?
 
Newbie question here.... I actually don't have chickens yet. I've been planning and scheming to get DH on board for a LONG time and now we are at the planning stage of putting in a garden AND a chicken coop.... I want the chickens to be able to forage in our yard while protecting the main garden, so they will free range in a smaller area (which can also be better protected from hawks/owls). So they'll have an area larger than a run but not full range of the whole yard.

My question is, how much space does each chicken need for forage each day/week? I know that if they're let loose in the garden there won't be anything left for us, so they'll have their own garden. But obviously, I'll need to block of sections of new growth so they don't mow down the seedlings before they become plants. How much room do they need each day or week to forage (assuming I don't buy feed or only supplement a bit with FF and whatever food scraps from our family of 4)? I'm trying to figure out how many sections of what size I can get away with. I'll be planting veggies and greens in addition to cover crops, and as I said, they will have access to our compost pile for house scraps and probably some fermented feed (this thread inspired me -- if I can make yogurt for my kids, I can make feed for the chickens!).

Ultimately, the goal is to not have to buy any feed except what I'm fermenting and supplementing and want to keep that at a minimum. I can also set aside space in the main garden to grow extra veggies and greens to toss in to them if need be, but frankly I have no idea how much a chicken eats in a day so that makes it difficult...
 
For all of you who have experience with turkeys... some questions.
carving-turkey.gif


-If I wanted to raise one or 2 for meat, how old are they at processing?
-Is chicken and turkey feed basically the same - or are there different nutritional needs?
-Is processing about the same as with chickens? Bleed, dunk, pluck, gut?

chasing-baked-turkey.gif
It all depends on breed of turkey
16-20 weeks for 20 lbs for most variety's
even midgets can get to 10-15lbs.


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I have a few turkey questions too.
When should I clip their wings and how often?
Will they try to escape over my 4 ft fenced in yard?
How much roosting space is needed for 3 turkeys if the toms get to be around 30-33 pounds? I'm thinking of tossing a temporary lean to in our back yard with one roosting bar.
Are the turkeys more likely to get attacked than a chicken.

I'm getting 3 turkey poults in May as there is a group from Indiana placing an order so I can save on shipping and get just 3. Back to Leah's Mom's processing questions, if the poults come in May would they be ready to process by Thanksgiving? Would they be too tough for Christmas dinner?
4 foot?

umm even if you remove all the wings in some breeds of turkeys they will get over a 4 footer when younger. They are very agile for a huge bird. One clipping at 20lbs should do the trick till butcher time. They can hop up on the top of a truck with little effort when young. After about 20 weeks they should be too heavy to fly. They love to roost on the top of the coop and in trees until that time.

Depending on feed and breed of turkey..they should be more than ready..That is 6 months of feed!! Turkeys can get to 20lbs in 20 week. You will have a 30lb bird!!!!


Newbie question here.... I actually don't have chickens yet. I've been planning and scheming to get DH on board for a LONG time and now we are at the planning stage of putting in a garden AND a chicken coop.... I want the chickens to be able to forage in our yard while protecting the main garden, so they will free range in a smaller area (which can also be better protected from hawks/owls). So they'll have an area larger than a run but not full range of the whole yard.

My question is, how much space does each chicken need for forage each day/week? I know that if they're let loose in the garden there won't be anything left for us, so they'll have their own garden. But obviously, I'll need to block of sections of new growth so they don't mow down the seedlings before they become plants. How much room do they need each day or week to forage (assuming I don't buy feed or only supplement a bit with FF and whatever food scraps from our family of 4)? I'm trying to figure out how many sections of what size I can get away with. I'll be planting veggies and greens in addition to cover crops, and as I said, they will have access to our compost pile for house scraps and probably some fermented feed (this thread inspired me -- if I can make yogurt for my kids, I can make feed for the chickens!).

Ultimately, the goal is to not have to buy any feed except what I'm fermenting and supplementing and want to keep that at a minimum. I can also set aside space in the main garden to grow extra veggies and greens to toss in to them if need be, but frankly I have no idea how much a chicken eats in a day so that makes it difficult...
Welcome to the group..

here is something to enjoy and a great way to feed your chickens and keep your garden safe!! I hope all watch it and enjoy!


 

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