The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

[hellbender]

Technically Jk but atleast humans are humane and don't just kill things for the fun of it and leave the thing they killed to rot.

What world do you live in or perhaps what dimension?

The Dept. of Natural Resources in most states would go 'out of business' if not for humans doing things just like that.

 

[subhanalah]

I'm stunned.  When the situation has deteriorated to the point you're seeing worms, it's time for a serious look at management.  Sorry if my post stuns anyone else but there's enough 'stun' to go 'round.

I'm SO glad you brought this up.
I was watching videos about Veterycin products. It lead me to a whole horrible ugly place that taught me why Veterycin was invented. Because aggro business keeps animals in horrible conditions, so they develop pink eye, umbilical hernias/infections, and countless other things. The "commercials" were in spanish, so likely filmed in South or Central America. Which leads me to another thing. Clearly there are too many laws here to prevent the testing of these items on animals in the states, so what horrible things did they test on the animals to get to where they decided to use what's basically a weak bleach solution. How concentrated/diluted has it been to see if it's effective?

WHY CANT THEY JUST NOT KEEP THEM IN THEIR OWN POOPY, MUDDY MESS AND FEED THEM RIGHT AND THE ANIMALS WON'T NEED SPRAY FOR PINK EYE!

sorry....maybe you guys should look at the YouTube for it. Tell me what you think, I'm just steaming and can't keep all my thoughts straight/organized.

Point is, I'm not sure I want to buy their products anymore. It may be a great product, but the company appears to be morally bankrupt. Maybe I'm wrong?

 

[BriskRooster]

What world do you live in or perhaps what dimension?

The Dept. of Natural Resources in most states would go 'out of business' if not for humans doing things just like that.

and so they should

 

[BriskRooster]

or So they should, should i say

 

[BriskRooster]

I'm SO glad you brought this up.
I was watching videos about Veterycin products. It lead me to a whole horrible ugly place that taught me why Veterycin was invented. Because aggro business keeps animals in horrible conditions, so they develop pink eye, umbilical hernias/infections, and countless other things. The "commercials" were in spanish, so likely filmed in South or Central America. Which leads me to another thing. Clearly there are too many laws here to prevent the testing of these items on animals in the states, so what horrible things did they test on the animals to get to where they decided to use what's basically a weak bleach solution. How concentrated/diluted has it been to see if it's effective?

WHY CANT THEY JUST NOT KEEP THEM IN THEIR OWN POOPY, MUDDY MESS AND FEED THEM RIGHT AND THE ANIMALS WON'T NEED SPRAY FOR PINK EYE!

sorry....maybe you guys should look at the YouTube for it. Tell me what you think, I'm just steaming and can't keep all my thoughts straight/organized.

Point is, I'm not sure I want to buy their products anymore. It may be a great product, but the company appears to be morally bankrupt. Maybe I'm wrong?

Your right, if you want to see more 'moral bankruptcy' to be exposed to you search in google "foodink movie" if you want to learn about large food outlets.

those same animals they leave in their "OWN POOPY, MUDDY MESS" are sent to supermarkets and sold for the ignorant consumer to eat!

 

[hellbender]

I'm SO glad you brought this up.
I was watching videos about Veterycin products. It lead me to a whole horrible ugly place that taught me why Veterycin was invented. Because aggro business keeps animals in horrible conditions, so they develop pink eye, umbilical hernias/infections, and countless other things. The "commercials" were in spanish, so likely filmed in South or Central America. Which leads me to another thing. Clearly there are too many laws here to prevent the testing of these items on animals in the states, so what horrible things did they test on the animals to get to where they decided to use what's basically a weak bleach solution. How concentrated/diluted has it been to see if it's effective?

WHY CANT THEY JUST NOT KEEP THEM IN THEIR OWN POOPY, MUDDY MESS AND FEED THEM RIGHT AND THE ANIMALS WON'T NEED SPRAY FOR PINK EYE!

sorry....maybe you guys should look at the YouTube for it. Tell me what you think, I'm just steaming and can't keep all my thoughts straight/organized.

Point is, I'm not sure I want to buy their products anymore. It may be a great product, but the company appears to be morally bankrupt. Maybe I'm wrong?

I see it advertised constantly but have never bought it and certainly have never used it. I'll check it.

 

[BriskRooster]

I'm SO glad you brought this up.
I was watching videos about Veterycin products. It lead me to a whole horrible ugly place that taught me why Veterycin was invented. Because aggro business keeps animals in horrible conditions, so they develop pink eye, umbilical hernias/infections, and countless other things. The "commercials" were in spanish, so likely filmed in South or Central America. Which leads me to another thing. Clearly there are too many laws here to prevent the testing of these items on animals in the states, so what horrible things did they test on the animals to get to where they decided to use what's basically a weak bleach solution. How concentrated/diluted has it been to see if it's effective?

WHY CANT THEY JUST NOT KEEP THEM IN THEIR OWN POOPY, MUDDY MESS AND FEED THEM RIGHT AND THE ANIMALS WON'T NEED SPRAY FOR PINK EYE!

sorry....maybe you guys should look at the YouTube for it. Tell me what you think, I'm just steaming and can't keep all my thoughts straight/organized.

Point is, I'm not sure I want to buy their products anymore. It may be a great product, but the company appears to be morally bankrupt. Maybe I'm wrong?

i expect your not a westerner, if you were you would likely dismiss/turn a blind eye to those videos.

 

[subhanalah]

i expect your not a westerner, if you were you would likely dismiss/turn a blind eye to those videos.

you expect wrong. Sorry! Family's been in the US for centuries. (Well, it wasn't called the United States back then...)

But actually, I've recently spoken to an American woman who is living in Lybia. She says the way they treat their animals is terrible. And that's not on an industrial level. At least on the industrial level, they try to keep the animals alive long enough to get a good Butcher out of them, even if they are falling over dead :/

 

[CoopChick719]

I'm stunned. When the situation has deteriorated to the point you're seeing worms, it's time for a serious look at management. Sorry if my post stuns anyone else but there's enough 'stun' to go 'round.

To tell you the truth hellbender, I was just as stunned to see them! I feed the girls FF even the State Vet told me to stop fermenting it and just feed dry; Dry feed is always available. They have 3 waterers (1 w/ACV & mother) which I fill w/clean water nightly; do deep litter in my coop but also remove a lot of solid waste, have limed, wood-ashed & DE'd the deep litter. They're 10 x 10 run is covered so they aren't in 5 inches of mud when it rains, the 6 x 10 addition is not. They cannot free range all day as I work & we've had predator issues. If you have any advice, I'd love to hear it.

 

[BriskRooster]

you expect wrong. Sorry! Family's been in the US for centuries. (Well, it wasn't called the United States back then...)

But actually, I've recently spoke to an American woman who is living in Lybia. She says the way they treat their animals is terrible. And that's not on an industrial level. At least on the industrial level, they try to keep the animals alive long enough to get a good Butcher out of them, even if they are falling over dead

okay give me another guess, you don't have fluoridated water? e.g. you are on tank water or in your state it is clear there is no fluoride in the water