The neighbours cat.

[Loopeend]

I think you are taking the right step by being nice to the neighbor and bringing him eggs first..... when you feel like everything is going good, politely tell the neighbor about the cat problem. That's it. Should work. But if it doesn't, you COULD get a dog.... a mean one to guard your ducks.

Dog, no. Their dog is even worse. I would never get a dog unless I can bring it the right amount of exciting things it needs. My cat is fine with this two story building and this big yard she has. But a dog naw.
For the picture; we have a looooooong yard. It is 8 meters wide ( 4 really tall persons) and 80 meters deep ( 40 people that play basketball) (I wish this was real and all of these basketball players where laying around in my yard, I'm too lazy too translate it to foots and inches, you get the distance). It's a narrow pipe with the neighbours being really close. It's in the middle of the city and I could not give a dog the right excercise it needs. These neighbours though, decided to put tiles ALL over there garden, and keep a fighting dog. Which they don't like in the house because it is 'too active', Never walk it too.. Every person here with a dog walks it atleast 2-3 times a day... this dog gets walked once in a while when the kids from his new girlfriend are over and still have some kind of heart/want to escape the house. We can not sit in the garden because that dog keeps going mental, trying to murder us like a maniac, actually chewing the brick wall.. we can't talk due to it's rabid behaviour, and he/she even managed to come through!, we had to run for our lives.. and STILL we were scardedy cats.. Didn't say anything. Because we are scared that the owner is like the dog. But the dog seems to be gone now?
Still the cat.
But giving eggs might not be the right way to go. He also just talks to us hanging from over the wall, when he accepts packages (when our mailman gives it to them), he never had them. Then later he does. And we get it back opened...

 

[Loopeend]

URRRGH. Yes, why not make our duck coop your own home like we made it especially for you? Go to your own home annoying little - badword-. Grrrrmble.

 

[aart]

That cat needs to 'disappear'.

 

[Rooster_Tyranny]

K, my first response was a bit over the top. And I apologize for that. One thing I will still ask of you though, however, is that you still have more compassion. There is nothing wrong with putting your foot down, but as someone else said, that cat could mean a lot to the girl.

You responded by saying "That's just an assumption" but you're making an assumption on them as well. We don't know the whole situation and we should keep that in mind at all times.

 

[aart]

But then again, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself and read the story wrong.

Did you read the whole thread...carefully?

 

[Rooster_Tyranny]

Did you read the whole thread...carefully?

I thought I did but I reread it again and I suppose not. I get overly excited and skim through things, and I couldn't remember who posted what. I'm sorry everyone, I'll delete it, or at least edit it. Though a lot of these are responses are still not okay.

 

[Loopeend]

I'm a little horrified with the kind of responses here. I'm sure the cat is annoying you out of your mind, and lawfully you have a right to take action. But you said you haven't even TALKED to the neighbors yet. You're thinking of trapping what could be their beloved cat and sending it off to a shelter or KILLING it when there's a possibility that this problem could be fixed by at least talking to them? Give them a chance here, maybe they don't even know what's going on. But then again, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself and read the story wrong.

Talk to them first, if they refuse to believe you or take action then we can talk. But even then I wouldn't take matters into my own hands I'd call and report it (though maybe your laws are different). Has it actually killed any of your animals yet?

Just because something's bothering you doesn't give you a right to do whatever horrible thing you want to it. After all, it's not the cat's fault. It doesn't know about property boundaries, it views your ducks the same way it views the sparrows. I'm not saying this makes the behavior acceptable, but have compassion, particularly for the neighbors.

No, no, no. I have not been fair in my story. I'm leaving stuff out, so it is no wonder that you question my story.

I know. I type here "thinking about it', but it is more of an emotional outburst then we would actual be able to do that... we are waaay to animal-friendly to do any harm. The problem is in the owner; not in the cat. He/she is cat, catting around. But the owner is a bit.. well, you don't want him to be against you. We are a bit stuck.

To make the story more weird and longer;
We bought a farm that is swallowed up by the city. In a neighbourhood that a whole documentairy is made about because it is one of the worse neighbourhoods of the country. Some people call them travelers. Or gypsy's. etc. Don't really like to use that word because we only see the bad side of these people in the news, and they are no way all like that, but this behaviour you see in the news; is what THESE neighbours do. so it helps to get a view. We bought it maybe too naïvly because we never been around this environment. They have intricate long-lasting wars between family's. We learned that they are quite harmless when you are an outsider. They don't harass you because you are not in their 'lives'. You are not part of some long-lasting family fued. We live here a year now, and totally underestamated it. Weekly there is some stabbing, or some car burning, or the police has to come but can't do anything because they are bombarded with empty beer bottles and fireworks and all the streets are blocked with cars/fires, usually for soccer-reasons/family-battles but I'm beginning to think it is just their way of 'fun'. AKA47's are fired random (really illegal here) and we can't do grocery shopping without some weird stuff again that happens where the police needs to be involved. Not even half of it makes the newspapers we found out. And who is in the centre of it? This neighbour.

He makes me feel like he is a dog and I need to assert my dominance. He keeps taking it. We are people that are easily walked over. I feel that I need to assert a dominance asap.. before I get upset too late; and the neighbour turns against us. And he has really scary ways to deal with problems. We already have one living here that is against me, a cliënt that I worked for, he didn't want to pay, just like really not wanting to pay.. when I send the bill, what is normal, he answered with smacking beer-bottles at my house? Still, now, a year later. Without me being ever aggresive to him in what way or whatever? I just send him a bill for the website I made for him with the costs agreed upon in a signed contract? Really weird.

We are really not used to this. We both do not come from a place where dominance is an important factor in life. Or a disagreement is solved with violence, lasting for ever. affecting your great-great-grand children because they have a certain family-name. This maked it hard to find out how to proper react to this cat-situation. We are afraid to piss him off, but we also want to take the cow by the horns since dominance seems to be such a big factor here? Making that cat 'dissapear' (not kill it offcourse) might seem a good option. Since it lowers the chance that the neighbour turns against us..

It's more then a pickle then the cat only. Maybe the cat might even be symbolic. Might it not actually try to kill ducklings...

 

[Rooster_Tyranny]

No, no, no. I have not been fair in my story. I'm leaving stuff out, so it is no wonder that you question my story.

I know. I type here "thinking about it', but it is more of an emotional outburst then we would actual be able to do that... we are waaay to animal-friendly to do any harm. The problem is in the owner; not in the cat. He/she is cat, catting around. But the owner is a bit.. well, you don't want him to be against you. We are a bit stuck.

To make the story more weird and longer;
We bought a farm that is swallowed up by the city. In a neighbourhood that a whole documentairy is made about because it is one of the worse neighbourhoods of the country. Some people call them travelers. Or gypsy's. etc. Don't really like to use that word because we only see the bad side of these people in the news, and they are no way all like that, but this behaviour you see in the news; is what THESE neighbours do. so it helps to get a view. We bought it maybe too naïvly because we never been around this environment. They have intricate long-lasting wars between family's. We learned that they are quite harmless when you are an outsider. They don't harass you because you are not in their 'lives'. You are not part of some long-lasting family fued. We live here a year now, and totally underestamated it. Weekly there is some stabbing, or some car burning, or the police has to come but can't do anything because they are bombarded with empty beer bottles and fireworks and all the streets are blocked with cars/fires, usually for soccer-reasons/family-battles but I'm beginning to think it is just their way of 'fun'. AKA47's are fired random (really illegal here) and we can't do grocery shopping without some weird stuff again that happens where the police needs to be involved. Not even half of it makes the newspapers we found out. And who is in the centre of it? This neighbour.

He makes me feel like he is a dog and I need to assert my dominance. He keeps taking it. We are people that are easily walked over. I feel that I need to assert a dominance asap.. before I get upset too late; and the neighbour turns against us. And he has really scary ways to deal with problems. We already have one living here that is against me, a cliënt that I worked for, he didn't want to pay, just like really not wanting to pay.. when I send the bill, what is normal, he answered with smacking beer-bottles at my house? Still, now, a year later. Without me being ever aggresive to him in what way or whatever? I just send him a bill for the website I made for him with the costs agreed upon in a signed contract? Really weird.

We are really not used to this. We both do not come from a place where dominance is an important factor in life. Or a disagreement is solved with violence, lasting for ever. affecting your great-great-grand children because they have a certain family-name. This maked it hard to find out how to proper react to this cat-situation. We are afraid to piss him off, but we also want to take the cow by the horns since dominance seems to be such a big factor here? Making that cat 'dissapear' (not kill it offcourse) might seem a good option. Since it lowers the chance that the neighbour turns against us..

It's more then a pickle then the cat only. Maybe the cat might even be symbolic. Might it not actually try to kill ducklings...

Oh my goodness! I'm so sorry! And I'm sorry I was so quick to judge you. Now given your situation, I completely understand doing that, it's not too much harm on the cat to give it away and it makes the situation safer for you - granted he never finds out, be careful about that. But I also applaud you for being willing to go and talk to him. Best of luck!

 

[Shamo Hybrid]

People who are unstable like this, you have to be on their friendly side.... if not, who knows what they are capable of. If you value some peace in your life, try to befriend them in a way, not too much because you don't want them coming over, etc..... but just enough to where they don't have bad thoughts about you, they respect that you are actually nice to them, and maybe then they will actually listen to you. As much as you want to wring their necks, it's probably best to go the friendly route.

 

[Loopeend]

People who are unstable like this, you have to be on their friendly side.... if not, who knows what they are capable of. If you value some peace in your life, try to befriend them in a way, not too much because you don't want them coming over, etc..... but just enough to where they don't have bad thoughts about you, they respect that you are actually nice to them, and maybe then they will actually listen to you. As much as you want to wring their necks, it's probably best to go the friendly route.

You seem to have knowledge how to handle this.
I'm scared I can't keep the line straight (let alone, I rather would have neighbours that I don't have to walk on eggsshells all the time, or have to act to like they are my patiënts..)
Some stuff worked. His new girlfriend, and their together combined 7 children, are loudly talking nasty stuff about us, when we are right next to them. Not personal stuff; but how they think we are weird because my partner listens heavy metal and blablabla that's so gross and we are stupid etc. We can solve this by calmly saying 'we can hear this, we are literally one meter apart, and why don't you tell that story again how you are worried that one of your balls is hanging lower then the other and it worries you since you told that this morning, since we hear eveything, we heard you telling that to your friend Djaylano, maybe this girl Daisy in the pool with you now is also interested in hearing this since you told Djaylano that you like her so much'. The children can laugh about it, they get the message. They get the hint. They stop.
We have a whole collection of all kind of balls in our yard. They actually came through the bushes that are our fence to yell at us to throw it back? Uh, no. You can come over here, and ask politely if you may retrieve your ball back.. And they did. And we were genuine kind when they did, showed them our poultry since one of them had a big interest in them.. and we even hear them now boasting to their friends about how awesome our poultry is :') The defend us when a friend says something bad about us :O And they allways ring the bell now when losing one of their soccer/tabletennis/whatever balls
So the kids are allright.

But what on earth are you going to do when an adult women is talking to her friends, nasty stuff about you, when you sit next to it with your friends and family... She is not a child that is changeable. Due to hearing everything; I know how she will react when I would say 'I can hear eveything and I would like it if you would talk nasty about me without me hearing it'. She will tell her partner that she hates us and hé needs to get rid of us or otherwise she will leave (again a thing we daily hear when he is not around).. and it also her cat... She will not react like a child 'oh, sorry, I didn't realise that you could hear this and it is hurtfull. I won't do it again'. =/

Not to speak about his 5th floor he wants to build on his house. Which would result in us having 0 sunlight at all in our yard, that is already blocked by his 4story house, I can easily fight and prevent this, but do I want to when I know what my punishment will be? But can I let this be because of my fear of him? Where will it end if I allways give in to him? And where will it end if I take a stance.. =/