The NFC B-Day Chat Thread

[N F C]

Maybe you should ask them to do background checks on every one you hire .
Even if the one you suspected is not guilty, I would still be suspicious. Makes me wonder if this is a frequent problem for most golf courses?

Hope y'all have no more theft or crime issues, you have had your limit.



Too bad they were last year's....wish you could hire them back

5 weeks sounds nice.....but there's many more seasons to come

DH never had this kind of problem with the guys that worked for him at the FL golf courses. Most of his workers were immigrants and just thankful to be given an opportunity to work.

There are some very good folks here...people like our own Blooie or like S who has worked on the irrigation system here for 9 years. Then there seems to be a large portion of people that have drug and/or drinking issues...they can't keep a job (and some don't want to keep one longer than it takes to buy more booze or drugs). Because we are only seasonal employers, we tend to get a larger portion of the 2nd kind of people than the first...folks in the first category have steady employment with benefits and better pay.

Maybe it's the same all over, I dunno.

 

[scottcaddy]

DH never had this kind of problem with the guys that worked for him at the FL golf courses. Most of his workers were immigrants and just thankful to be given an opportunity to work.

There are some very good folks here...people like our own Blooie or like S who has worked on the irrigation system here for 9 years. Then there seems to be a large portion of people that have drug and/or drinking issues...they can't keep a job (and some don't want to keep one longer than it takes to buy more booze or drugs). Because we are only seasonal employers, we tend to get a larger portion of the 2nd kind of people than the first...folks in the first category have steady employment with benefits and better pay.

Maybe it's the same all over, I dunno.

Same thing in the construction area also.
Alot of sorry young people out there that think the world owes them a living.
JMHO!!
Scott

 

[sourland]

DH never had this kind of problem with the guys that worked for him at the FL golf courses. Most of his workers were immigrants and just thankful to be given an opportunity to work.

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I initially worked in an ornamental greenhouse environment. About the time they hired me they started phasing out all the 'immigrant' labor and replacing them with college graduates. Within 3 or 4 years they went back to the immigrant labor that was willing to do physical work.

Next job which became my career was managing a laboratory animal colony for a major pharmaceutical corp. When I could no longer find people with farm backgrounds (the urbanization of NJ) I had great problems locating folks who didn't mind getting crap on their hands and who were willing to show up for work every day. I agree with Scott about the entitlement mentality of many today. You can tell for sure that most of these kids never went to bed hungry or wore mended clothes to school.

In the town that I live in, most fast food, landscaping, farm and to a certain degree construction jobs are filled by immigrant labor.

 

[JaeG]

Hope the hatches go well and you won't be doing hourly feedings

Quail can look after themselves thankfully. But the two that hatched last night peeped so much (they always look a bit bewildered to hatch and find no mother to cuddle them) I took them out to the aviary (in the dark) and gave them to little Whistler who is on eggs that should be hatching soon. This morning Spicey (who is not even fully feathered) is helping her look after them - so cute!

Three more have hatched this morning in the incubator. I've taken Whistlers eggs to put in the incubator as she'll be up and about with the chicks soon and a couple still look good. I'll give her the other three chicks once they are fully dry. I'm not sure how many chicks a button mother can look after. Six is probably the limit. We'll see how many more hatch - hopefully not too many for me to give her (I'd much rather she brooded them than me), and with her little sister helping out they should be alright. At the moment we have three silvers and two cinnamons.

Debby, you asked about their egg colour. Buttons can lay lots of different colours and my girls lay a greeny/grey colour. Very pretty. Also you asked about my Bourke colours. My pair that's producing offspring are Cinnamons which is what most of mine are at present, Squeak (who I now call Squeaky Bird) included. The female is a Cinnamon Opaline so has more pink, but Cinnamon is sex linked so all the birds look like their father but the boys will be carrying the Opaline. Cinnamon is a very common colour here but not very common in Europe or America. I also have a wild type male and two Rubino females. I need some boy chicks from the male and one of the girls to breed with the other girl to get Lutino and Rubino babies.

I've also agreed to hand rear some cockatiel chicks for a breeder who has helped me with my bourkes and who we got our Button quail pair from. Stop laughing!!! We are picking up 2 or 3 chicks tomorrow at 2 weeks old. So that will be interesting. Apparently cockatiel chicks don't know when to stop eating so it's easy to over fill their crops.

 

[sunflour]

DH never had this kind of problem with the guys that worked for him at the FL golf courses. Most of his workers were immigrants and just thankful to be given an opportunity to work.

There are some very good folks here...people like our own Blooie or like S who has worked on the irrigation system here for 9 years. Then there seems to be a large portion of people that have drug and/or drinking issues...they can't keep a job (and some don't want to keep one longer than it takes to buy more booze or drugs). Because we are only seasonal employers, we tend to get a larger portion of the 2nd kind of people than the first...folks in the first category have steady employment with benefits and better pay.

Maybe it's the same all over, I dunno.

Never thought about it, at least you have an understanding of the problem.. But hope next year you will find great employees . Around here its hard to not only find folks who want to work but those who can count to 10 .
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Stop laughing!!!

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

Quail can look after themselves thankfully. But the two that hatched last night peeped so much (they always look a bit bewildered to hatch and find no mother to cuddle them) I took them out to the aviary (in the dark) and gave them to little Whistler who is on eggs that should be hatching soon. This morning Spicey (who is not even fully feathered) is helping her look after them - so cute!
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Three more have hatched this morning in the incubator. I've taken Whistlers eggs to put in the incubator as she'll be up and about with the chicks soon and a couple still look good. I'll give her the other three chicks once they are fully dry. I'm not sure how many chicks a button mother can look after. Six is probably the limit. We'll see how many more hatch - hopefully not too many for me to give her (I'd much rather she brooded them than me), and with her little sister helping out they should be alright. At the moment we have three silvers and two cinnamons.

Debby, you asked about their egg colour. Buttons can lay lots of different colours and my girls lay a greeny/grey colour. Very pretty. Also you asked about my Bourke colours. My pair that's producing offspring are Cinnamons which is what most of mine are at present, Squeak (who I now call Squeaky Bird) included. The female is a Cinnamon Opaline so has more pink, but Cinnamon is sex linked so all the birds look like their father but the boys will be carrying the Opaline. Cinnamon is a very common colour here but not very common in Europe or America. I also have a wild type male and two Rubino females. I need some boy chicks from the male and one of the girls to breed with the other girl to get Lutino and Rubino babies.

I've also agreed to hand rear some cockatiel chicks for a breeder who has helped me with my bourkes and who we got our Button quail pair from. Stop laughing!!! We are picking up 2 or 3 chicks tomorrow at 2 weeks old. So that will be interesting. Apparently cockatiel chicks don't know when to stop eating so it's easy to over fill their crops.

Thanks, now I'm looking into quail, they are adorable. Are they easy?

 

[JaeG]

Thanks, now I'm looking into quail, they are adorable. Are they easy?

If you want quail eggs to eat go with the Japanese quail but the Buttons are beautiful and great as clean up crew in the aviary, plus they generally brood their own eggs, though some individuals don't. You'd have more Button colour varieties to choose from than we have here - I love the blueface mutation but we don't have that here.

They are happiest in pairs or trios or you can keep same sex groups. Smaller cages are fine too - 5 square feet for a pair, less per bird for same sex groups (i think a square foot each). They either need a really tall cage or very short one preferably with something soft on the ceiling as they leap straight upwards at speed if startled, and they can do some serious damage to themselves.

They are hard to catch - fast, slippery little eels, and they can fly quite well being so little and light. They are quite highly strung and don't like being handled or touched but they usually get friendly enough to eat treats from your hand. I love them because they are so cute looking, even as adults.

 

[NickyKnack]

Same thing in the construction area also.
Alot of sorry young people out there that think the world owes them a living.
JMHO!!
Scott

That's the thing with a lot of these millennials. Most still rely on Mommy and Daddy to solve their problems, if not pay the bills. It's sad when what is glaringly obvious to the rest of the world, is lost on them. *sigh *

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

If you want quail eggs to eat go with the Japanese quail but the Buttons are beautiful and great as clean up crew in the aviary, plus they generally brood their own eggs, though some individuals don't. You'd have more Button colour varieties to choose from than we have here - I love the blueface mutation but we don't have that here.

They are happiest in pairs or trios or you can keep same sex groups. Smaller cages are fine too - 5 square feet for a pair, less per bird for same sex groups (i think a square foot each). They either need a really tall cage or very short one preferably with something soft on the ceiling as they leap straight upwards at speed if startled, and they can do some serious damage to themselves.

They are hard to catch - fast, slippery little eels, and they can fly quite well being so little and light. They are quite highly strung and don't like being handled or touched but they usually get friendly enough to eat treats from your hand. I love them because they are so cute looking, even as adults.

Thank you for all the good information. I might be too slow to keep them, but you never know what the future brings.

 

[JaeG]

Little Spicey keeps getting left holding the babies! She's being such a good babysitter.

I tried to get a good photo of her but was hindered somewhat by a dove who gave up on her eggs today and has had energy to burn. She decided to sunbathe in front of me - despite the fact there was no sun coming in the aviary!


I have been checking and checking on the little ones as it's a big area and 5 chicks are a lot to keep track of. At one point I only found 4 under Whistler. I searched around and found the one who had strayed. I thought it was dead for a second as it was so stiff, then it kind of opened its mouth, so I rushed it inside and held it right by the fire. It didn't take long to warm up and start yelling for its mother thankfully!
This was it when I first brought it in:


Then thankfully it perked right up:



It was nice to cuddle it while it was so docile - they are very busy little things.

Here are the two colours we've got this time around, cinnamon on the left, silver on the right: