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[The Yakima Kid]

I absolutely agree!

I just yesterday brought home a beat up, well worn old rocker that I got from an auction that looks perfect on my back porch. May I drag it over to the corner and join you, please?

Heck, I went and took a nap.

 

[Alaskan]

anyone still up?




OK Chickas and Chickos!

My quail are hatching!

There was however, a slight oops in the incubation process, on top of the fact that these are shipped eggs, so also

They are over a day late! I am not sure how not turning them

for the first 5 days can make them so late.

18 made it to lock down. However, they are there NOT because I saw veins or movement, but only because they are clearly not clear. Those eggs are way too tiny to see much of anything.

Interesting too..those quail are so tiny that they get hungry WAY faster than chickens or ducks. The first one hatched this morning, and was already starving by afternoon. I put some food dust in there, and they already ate it all up. Luckily, they are so tiny, that they have plenty of room to eat and drink while still in the toasty warm incubator.

Anyway, I am now up to 5 hatched (out of 18 remember -nail biting emoticon- ) but i think I see two more pips. I can't even see the pips without squinting and staring for one minute per egg!

So, please

that if I really only get 5, that they all live and are female, OR, that at least 5 more hatch.

 

[Alaskan]

oh..... and no one was impressed that the inspector wanted to burn down the house I wanted to buy?

that was funny.

 

[The Yakima Kid]

Yakima, from my highly biased European point of view, I see flying out American citizens to get American treatment at a American hospital by American doctors as the arrogant thing to do, I don't really care what the persons occupation is.

Oz, glad to see you had a safe flight.

From my highly arrogant American point of view, I don't care what the person's occupation is - the virus doesn't either. I still do not think there was any valid reason to bring patients to the US for treatment.

What I was noting is the use of adjectives in the one news story, designed to make people feel warm and fuzzy about bringing one of the "right" folks to the US for treatment.
In case you weren't reading what I actually wrote, you might have noticed my rather uncomplimentary remarks about the US government supplying an experimental treatment for Americans and Europeans and NOT for Africans. Which is why I always suggest that Americans in love with socialistic notions re-read Orwell's "Animal Farm" - where it is pointed out that despite the claims of equality, some animals were more equal than others.

 

[ronott1]

anyone still up?




OK Chickas and Chickos!

My quail are hatching!

There was however, a slight oops in the incubation process, on top of the fact that these are shipped eggs, so also

They are over a day late! I am not sure how not turning them

for the first 5 days can make them so late.

18 made it to lock down. However, they are there NOT because I saw veins or movement, but only because they are clearly not clear. Those eggs are way too tiny to see much of anything.

Interesting too..those quail are so tiny that they get hungry WAY faster than chickens or ducks. The first one hatched this morning, and was already starving by afternoon. I put some food dust in there, and they already ate it all up. Luckily, they are so tiny, that they have plenty of room to eat and drink while still in the toasty warm incubator.

Anyway, I am now up to 5 hatched (out of 18 remember -nail biting emoticon- ) but i think I see two more pips. I can't even see the pips without squinting and staring for one minute per egg!

So, please

that if I really only get 5, that they all live and are female, OR, that at least 5 more hatch.

Congrats!

I have CCLs hatching-6 of 8 in lockdown with one more zipping.

oh..... and no one was impressed that the inspector wanted to burn down the house I wanted to buy?

that was funny.

It was funny!

I was avoiding the politics too. It was a very calm discussion but they can get ugly fast.

 

[The Yakima Kid]

Thanks Vehve

I think bringing the two Americans home was both safe and calculated.

It ensured they had the best chance of survival and also gave cdc academia the opportunity to study real patients.

The transportation was performed very safely. The hospital unit is very well trained.

As far as who gets treated or vaccinated first when there are limited options it should be medical personnel. They put their lives on the line to treat the sick.

There have only been a handful of people treated with this unproven drug. It makes sense to treat those you can study in follow up.

I agree it was calculated; I disagree on the "safe" part. I see a really bad case of medical arrogance and possible political correctness. I remember when political correctness contributed greatly to the spread of HIV. I remember the public health people, especially those in venereal disease work, and how they were frustrated and outraged over the failure to seriously deal with the disease due to the potential for hurt feelings in the gay community and in ethnic communities where it was being spread by drug use and men on the "down low."

If the real reason for brining people here for treatment was to study real patients and save medical personnel first, why didn't the US offer the experimental treatment to the African physician who was one of the world's leading experts on Ebola? Why offer it to a nurse or a mission doctor who would have far less impact in the long term?

The discussion isn't an immunization, it is an experimental treatment. If medical personnel are the ones to be treated first when there are limited options, why was it offered to a Spanish priest - and not to the African nurses?

 

[Alaskan]

Quote:
OOOOH!

Hatching your own eggs huh? No shipping stress? Better hatching rate?


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

I am REALLY hoping that most of my hatching next year is my own eggs.

Only problem with that, is that... I AM GOING ON VACATION NEXT YEAR!

How the hoopla am I gonna manage that?

I will have to sell any chicks that I hatch in the spring.... no way to get them all integrated before I leave.

Not sure I will manage that many months without hatching.

 

[The Yakima Kid]

The sky is falling?
what...This IS a chicken forum!
I've heard a word to describe this definition...brainwashing.

But as far as the CNN vs. the Fox headline, I agree that the Fox headline is rather sensationalistic and borders on propagating hysteria (what less would you expect of them? Lol)
Why else would it be in all caps. Everyone knows what that means on the internet.

I disagree. Partly because the virus doesn't care about the patient's occupation, so why should I?

One thing that really intrigues me is the number of people who disapprove of something they see because it might cause "hysterial" or "panic" - yet they fail to notice that although they have read it or seen it, they themselves have become neither hysterical nor panicked.

When one points this minor detail out to them, they tend to respond in terms that suggest that there are the ignorant, unwashed, inferior masses who react that way; while they belong to some superior, more enlightened breed.

I find the whole thing ridiculous. Despite all of the warnings about panic, it is very rare. And although people rant and rave about "panic" being the cause of death in such events as theater fires, one should not that the more common cause of death is that people do NOT react until there are minimal escape options. The case most used to illustrate the "panic" theory is the Iroquois Theater fire. Unfortunately, those extolling the "panic" theory fail to mention the lack of an effective fire curtain, the lack of a stage vent, the lack of sprinklers or fire extinguishers, the placement of locked gates blocking the stairways, the lack of lighting in the building, and the fact that most of those who died were prevented from escape by inadequate fire escapes, locked stairway gates, and most died from toxic fumes before the fire reached them.

Yes, there was rushing and trampling among those on the first floor who were able to try and flee - but what does one expect without lighting, when the flames are already burning people, the aisles are narrow, and the theater lobby and ground floor escape doors were locked, preventing the crowd from reaching the street.

However, panic was a very heavily promoted theory by the theater owners who did not wish to explain why they had disobeyed even Chicago's minimal safety regulations.

 

[The Yakima Kid]

Gas is $3.12/gallon. Large watermelons are $2.50. Corn is 4 ears for $1. Black angus ribeye steak is $3.99/lb. Sirloin $2.99. Tomatos $7 for a 5gallon bucket full. Whole fryer chickens $.99/lb

Gas is around $3.89 here. You don't want to know what other things cost, because it isn't pretty. The last time I appraised New York steak, it was something like $16 - $17 per pound. Tomatoes are about $1.49 per pound.

 

[The Yakima Kid]

Well, I guess that says it in a nutshell. "We can't handle the news". I feel like Jack Nichols.

The progressives have been working since way before FDR to mold the public opinion. Where did I learn this? (Glenn Beck)

Funny. I learned about it in a course on intellectual history - but it wasn't quite as blatant in the US, except during the Wilson administration.

Note the number of posters here who feel that we can't handle the news. Oooh, sensationalist headline, might cause the ignorant to panic. And we're all supposed to feel relaxed because the PHS did such a great job with the California bubonic plague outbreak, the Great Influenza, HIV, and other fun outbreaks.

But they did keep us safe from leprosy - even though the dry form isn't particularly contagious.