The Old Folks Home

[ronott1]

bruce, they can't build on less than 2.5 acres per home in this area, so they can't put that many homes on it. The local farmers got tired of developers trying to put in too many homes, so they guesstimated their combined water need in this area. They pushed bills through, limiting housing, so they would have plenty of water for crops in drought years.

There is a law called the Wilson act here. It is an Ag Preserve rule that gives the Ag land owner a break on property taxes. The rules will not allow the property to be broken up into less than 5 acre plots and restricts the number of houses per plot.

 

[pennyJo1960]

Morning everyone had my coffee even have clothes on few days took it easy
now back to it this morning

 

[getaclue]

Ron, there were similar type laws here, but for several years now a couple of huge out-of-state development companies have been buying up all the land they can. They have enough money to line political pockets, and get the properties rezoned, then build subdivision type housing. There are several tactics they use, and some of the properties take a couple years before they can get it all rezoned the way they want it, but they can afford to wait it out, and eventually they get exactly what they want.

My cousin, and I were talking about this the other day, and there are at least 2 things we don't understand.
1. There are multiple areas that used to be farmland, or raw land. When I say these developers have come in buying up parcels of land, many of these are 50 -500 acre parcels, many of them are side by side. When they go to develop, they leave a fairly wide strip close to the main road(s) with the native trees, and brush as a buffer, so no one sees what's actually going on. Behind those buffers, they're clearing out miles of land, putting in roads, power, sewage lines, sidewalks, etc. The buffers are cleared after they open the subdivisions. Thousands of homes go in, that are smallish 3 bedroom 2 bath sized homes, on less than 1/4 acre of land. The prices start at $220,000.00+. A decent executive home, with a pool, or enough land (maybe an acre) to put in a pool start at $320,000.00. How are all these families able to afford these homes? Where are they getting that much money for cracker jack box homes? Did everyone suddenly wake up wealthy but me, and my cousin? Don't even get me started on the price of vehicles.
2. Where are all the people coming from, that there are so many homes needed on a continuous basis? I was not describing the increase in housing for the state, or a portion of the state. I described one small area in our county, but the same thing is happening in multiple areas in our county. Did half the country wake up last week, and decide to move to my county? We've got the housing for them for sure, if they've got enough money.

Not all of the land is developed into homes. Some of it is turned into apartment complexes, and condo communities. Condos start at $250,000.00. Apartments start at $1,500.00 a month for a 1 bedroom. It's insane.

 

[pennyJo1960]

There have been the same out here now building on every piece they can now with that said I know Mossyrock our little town they have passed the acreage act less than two acres they cannot build all must connect with the water and sewer so the city wins that way

 

[drumstick diva]

Washington state is expensive.

 

[pennyJo1960]

Not always look at what this was we owe less than half of what it is valued at

 

[Peep_Show]

Bought the TracFone on HSN, if I recall correctly. They had a special that anything bought post-sale would be triple value. Currently I have 2500 minutes and 450 days. I'm set for a bit.

 

[CapricornFarm]

Ron, there were similar type laws here, but for several years now a couple of huge out-of-state development companies have been buying up all the land they can. They have enough money to line political pockets, and get the properties rezoned, then build subdivision type housing. There are several tactics they use, and some of the properties take a couple years before they can get it all rezoned the way they want it, but they can afford to wait it out, and eventually they get exactly what they want.

My cousin, and I were talking about this the other day, and there are at least 2 things we don't understand.
1. There are multiple areas that used to be farmland, or raw land. When I say these developers have come in buying up parcels of land, many of these are 50 -500 acre parcels, many of them are side by side. When they go to develop, they leave a fairly wide strip close to the main road(s) with the native trees, and brush as a buffer, so no one sees what's actually going on. Behind those buffers, they're clearing out miles of land, putting in roads, power, sewage lines, sidewalks, etc. The buffers are cleared after they open the subdivisions. Thousands of homes go in, that are smallish 3 bedroom 2 bath sized homes, on less than 1/4 acre of land. The prices start at $220,000.00+. A decent executive home, with a pool, or enough land (maybe an acre) to put in a pool start at $320,000.00. How are all these families able to afford these homes? Where are they getting that much money for cracker jack box homes? Did everyone suddenly wake up wealthy but me, and my cousin? Don't even get me started on the price of vehicles.
2. Where are all the people coming from, that there are so many homes needed on a continuous basis? I was not describing the increase in housing for the state, or a portion of the state. I described one small area in our county, but the same thing is happening in multiple areas in our county. Did half the country wake up last week, and decide to move to my county? We've got the housing for them for sure, if they've got enough money.

Not all of the land is developed into homes. Some of it is turned into apartment complexes, and condo communities. Condos start at $250,000.00. Apartments start at $1,500.00 a month for a 1 bedroom. It's insane.

People keep having kids, others immigrated. We saw the same thing in FL. Never mind there is a limit on how much groundwater you can pump out before salt water intrudes through the sand. And the roads can't handle the traffic. We got the heck out of there. My kids and grandkids still live there though. I worry about all the glaciers and ice shelves melting at an accelerated rate. Sea levels will rise. There will be massive losses. No one seems to figure it out. Life goes on as usual down there.

 

[ronott1]

Ron, there were similar type laws here, but for several years now a couple of huge out-of-state development companies have been buying up all the land they can. They have enough money to line political pockets, and get the properties rezoned, then build subdivision type housing. There are several tactics they use, and some of the properties take a couple years before they can get it all rezoned the way they want it, but they can afford to wait it out, and eventually they get exactly what they want.

My cousin, and I were talking about this the other day, and there are at least 2 things we don't understand.
1. There are multiple areas that used to be farmland, or raw land. When I say these developers have come in buying up parcels of land, many of these are 50 -500 acre parcels, many of them are side by side. When they go to develop, they leave a fairly wide strip close to the main road(s) with the native trees, and brush as a buffer, so no one sees what's actually going on. Behind those buffers, they're clearing out miles of land, putting in roads, power, sewage lines, sidewalks, etc. The buffers are cleared after they open the subdivisions. Thousands of homes go in, that are smallish 3 bedroom 2 bath sized homes, on less than 1/4 acre of land. The prices start at $220,000.00+. A decent executive home, with a pool, or enough land (maybe an acre) to put in a pool start at $320,000.00. How are all these families able to afford these homes? Where are they getting that much money for cracker jack box homes? Did everyone suddenly wake up wealthy but me, and my cousin? Don't even get me started on the price of vehicles.
2. Where are all the people coming from, that there are so many homes needed on a continuous basis? I was not describing the increase in housing for the state, or a portion of the state. I described one small area in our county, but the same thing is happening in multiple areas in our county. Did half the country wake up last week, and decide to move to my county? We've got the housing for them for sure, if they've got enough money.

Not all of the land is developed into homes. Some of it is turned into apartment complexes, and condo communities. Condos start at $250,000.00. Apartments start at $1,500.00 a month for a 1 bedroom. It's insane.

So far the ag preserve act has held here.

California is in the midst of a very large housing problem. One of the problems is not enough high density housing. Here in Woodland there are no permits for building any on the books currently. In Davis were I work, Occupancy rate is around 99%. You can find a place to rent and when you do it is very expensive.

 

[ronott1]

People keep having kids, others immigrated. We saw the same thing in FL. Never mind there is a limit on how much groundwater you can pump out before salt water intrudes through the sand. And the roads can't handle the traffic. We got the heck out of there. My kids and grandkids still live there though. I worry about all the glaciers and ice shelves melting at an accelerated rate. Sea levels will rise. There will be massive losses. No one seems to figure it out. Life goes on as usual down there.

California has the slowest growth rate in it's history currently. Birth rates and immigration are barely ahead of death rates and those moving out of State.

Still, the State is approaching 40 million residents