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[Arielle]

I too think the benefits are great to train all dogs, seems the ankle biters are often overlooked by owners but unfortunately I know of more bites or nips from the small dogs than larger dogs. From what I understand,the corgi is purposely short to avoid the kicks of the cattle. Here at my house we are always careful to keep the dogs out of the horse pens . . . one mare in particular will bear down on a dog , ears pinned and ready to bite. SO I have always protected the dogs from her. SHe is just trying to protect her foals.

Geez I think I need a less complicated life.

 

[Arielle]

oz-- where are those pictures?? HOpe everything went well today-- you had a list long enough to make me tired just reading it!!

 

[scottcaddy]

I don't have large livestock but i can see how a small dog could get stepped on or kicked. But what does a small dog have to do with poultry? I train all breeds of dog to the same standard. Toy is a size not how they should be treated. Not trying to start anything realy wondering. Is there a danger I didn't think of?

Two different people with small dogs wanted chickens for house eggs. We gave them each a few laying hens, within a few weeks both had the 'little darlings' kill the hens. Yes it is the owners fault more then the dogs.
Scott

 

[insanity]

That I can understand. At my house a chicken killer no matter how big, little, or "darling" gets one final "training". 100% effective. Most people around here wont endanger theirs or others livestock. Wyo has strict laws about livestock killers. The dog owner always pays damages no question. Repeat offenders can face criminal charges.

 

[chickadoodles]

I am loving all the photos. Thank you for sharing.

Yes, I used Frontline. The spray above looks like it contains pyrethrins, which some mites can be resistant to. I tried Frontline Plus, just 'cause, not really expecting it to work. But it did. I used the full-strength Frontline Plus (which has the growth regulator [GR] plus a killer) and I have no mites now, after 1 treatment. But I had tried the pyrethrin powder and ivermectin on the mites multiple times and got no where.
The Frontline Plus I used was for dogs. All the dog concentrations are the same based upon weight - but the volume is what's different. I used 1 drop on the back of the neck, one under each wing, and 1-2 below vent. That's 5 drops per bird (applied on the skin). One ml of fluid is about 20 drops, give or take. So multiply the number of chickens you have by 5 to get the number of drops you need, then divide by 20 to find out the number of mls you need, then figure out what "size" dog you have.

I needed about 15 ml to treat my flock of about 60 birds. So I bought the large dog ones, which are 4 mls each. I ended up using 4 of them. I did waste a bit in the beginning before I figured out exactly how I was going to do it all.

Some people use the Frontline spray, but it's a much less potent concentration of fipronil and doesn't contain the GR S-methoprene. I think the addition of the GR is what made me not have to do more than 1 treatment so I'll be sticking with the Frontline Plus.

I was going to do a second treatment, but I had mono... but learned something good with it - one treatment works.

Just for full disclosure I did clean the entire coop and did some bombs with the GR in them, as well.

Thanks SCG. I have some frontline for large dogs already and wanted to make sure that, that is what you used and how much. I will use that first after I spray the coop and change out all the shavings. I do appreciate your help very much. I don't think I can use bombs as the vents around the top of the coop just have wire over them and would not hold the bomb fumes in the coop.
But I will spray it all really good before I put more shaving back in there. Thanks so much!

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Thanks SCG. I have some frontline for large dogs already and wanted to make sure that, that is what you used and how much. I will use that first after I spray the coop and change out all the shavings. I do appreciate your help very much. I don't think I can use bombs as the vents around the top of the coop just have wire over them and would not hold the bomb fumes in the coop.
But I will spray it all really good before I put more shaving back in there. Thanks so much!

I have open vents at the top of the coop, too, and trust me, it held the fumes well enough. Some of those bombs are for a pretty big sized room - and I did one in the coop addition (8x12) and one in the regular coop (8x8). I wanted to be sure I had gotten in all the wood cracks, which is why I used the bomb. I also sprayed the roosts where they met the walls with concentrated pyrethrins until it was dripping.

The worst part was having to hear all the biddies who HAD TO LAY AN EGG NOW! freak out because they couldn't get in the coop and they didn't like the temporary nesting boxes I put outside the coop.

If I had to do it over I would do a second treatment, just to be sure, but I have not seen mite activity on the birds since the one treatment.

 

[chickadoodles]

I have open vents at the top of the coop, too, and trust me, it held the fumes well enough. Some of those bombs are for a pretty big sized room - and I did one in the coop addition (8x12) and one in the regular coop (8x8). I wanted to be sure I had gotten in all the wood cracks, which is why I used the bomb. I also sprayed the roosts where they met the walls with concentrated pyrethrins until it was dripping.

The worst part was having to hear all the biddies who HAD TO LAY AN EGG NOW! freak out because they couldn't get in the coop and they didn't like the temporary nesting boxes I put outside the coop.

If I had to do it over I would do a second treatment, just to be sure, but I have not seen mite activity on the birds since the one treatment.

Thanks so much! I will get a bomb and use it as well. None of my girls are laying right now anyways. So it would be a good time to get it all done before they start laying again. I do have some pyrethin spray and will use it in the coop on the roosts and the frame that holds the nest boxes.

 

[ozexpat]

I can take pictures but can't upload them with this internet speed. I can barely post a comment.

We vaccinated the pigs. The new young boar looks good and is very friendly which is nice.

The converter blew a fuse but I could not get to town as the road was blocked. There was a km of sugar cane trucks in front of me with nothing moving so I gave up.

We painted the extension on the egg house instead of coop building. I hope to whip up most of the coops tomorrow. 700 pieces of roof thatch arrived for the coops and goat house.

 

[Highcotton]

 Another option is powdered sulfur . . perhaps put into their dust bath material. Long timeer, all her life chicken keeper said her mom sed powdered sulfur to contain the bugs. FIgured it was worth a try as we eat the meat and eggs . . .  on line.

I have one turkey tudor from 2 summers ago that still tries to visit with her friends . . . . but they don't seem to recognize her and peck her until she is out of the turkey coop. Poor girl. 

Ahhhh, I've been wondering the same thing . . . . . 

Be careful about getting the powdered sulphur in your eyes it burns even if the dust settles on you and you wash it into your eyes.

 

[Arielle]

Quote: Good to know-- though now I worry it will hurt the chickens eyes too.