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Replace "distance" with "internet" and I think you have it right.

No, that's "blogeekko."
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Cc: thanks but i cant download pdf files on this stupid phone
Sorry, I guess I should have just posted the info.

That's good! I know some states charge like 300.00 or per bird!
I didn't know that.
Strange how many states are so different for a national program. I'm glad I'm in a free state.
The highest I heard of was $85 per hour in Washington. That could get high if it takes all day. They do 25% of the flock up to 999 birds, 10% of the flock over 1000 birds.


Your welcome. I have trouble finding peppers or pepper seeds here where do you get yours from?
Sandia Seed
http://www.sandiaseed.com/hotvery.html
The Chili Institute
http://www.chilepepperinstitute.org/cart/seeds/nmsu_varieties/
New Mexico Chili
http://www.nmchili.com/new_mexico__hatch__growing_seed.htm
Magic Garden.
http://www.magicgardenseeds.com/seite?wg=210
and lots more sources at the Chili Woman
http://www.thechilewoman.com/seedindex/
I like Seed Savers and Seeds of Change too, in the above list.

CC, I had 9 tested. They only test the ones you use for breeding/showing here in Florida. Two of the things they test for are Pullorum, and Fowl Typhoid which may be transmitted through the egg from the hen to the chick(s). I asked about having the rest of the flock tested. Like they told me, since they are in close enough proximity to each other (not direct contact, but close proximity, and shared run space on alternating days) if anyone had it, it would show up in some of the others too. I understood what they were saying. Like when one of my kids came down with something, their doctor put refills on the medicines, because at least one of the others were going to come down with the same thing.

Testing guidelines may vary from state to state, so you just have to see what the guidelines are in your state. Florida provides the testing for free.

They come and set up a wooden tv type tray, then put a glass pane on it, and put separate drops of testing solution, one for each bird to be tested, on the glass. You bring the bird near the table, and they reach under the wing to find a vein, and pluck a few small feathers (3-4). They do a quick stick in the cleared spot, and put a loop to get a tiny amount of blood (about 1 drop). They put the loop into the drop of testing solution, and mix. This is repeated for each bird. It's over very quickly, and didn't seem to cause them any real distress, or discomfort.
Thanks, that helps me prepare.

Besides P-T they'll also do mycoplasma gallisepticum, mycoplasma synoviae, mycoplasma meleagridis, salmonella enteritidis and AI at a minimal cost.

There's a lot of information on the various state costs and methods in this thread.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/128584/npip-certification/20
It may be out of date but post #29 has contact information for each state.
 
Everyone is so busy and love the dog pics!

I am having a problem with some roosters and was hoping someone could offer some explanation for it. I have three rooster who's combs are starting to turn black and flop over.
It is not been cold in AL. it has been in the upper 90's. I tried to google it and found that a lot of other people are having the same problem and asking the same questions.
 
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Strange how many states are so different for a national program. I'm glad I'm in a free state.
The highest I heard of was $85 per hour in Washington. That could get high if it takes all day. They do 25% of the flock up to 999 birds, 10% of the flock over 1000 birds.


That's great CC I think everyone that can be tested get tested. IMO

Quote: Sandia Seed
http://www.sandiaseed.com/hotvery.html

The Chili Institute
http://www.chilepepperinstitute.org/cart/seeds/nmsu_varieties/

New Mexico Chili
http://www.nmchili.com/new_mexico__hatch__growing_seed.htm

Magic Garden.
http://www.magicgardenseeds.com/seite?wg=210

and lots more sources at the Chili Woman
http://www.thechilewoman.com/seedindex/

I like Seed Savers and Seeds of Change too, in the above list.


Thanks CC! I will bookmark these pages!
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Everyone is so busy and love the dog pics!

I am having a problem with some roosters and was hoping someone could offer some explanation for it. I have three rooster who's combs are starting to turn black and flop over.
It is not been cold in AL. it has been in the upper 90's. I tried to google it and found that a lot of other people are having the same problem and asking the same questions.

Could they be fighting and it be scabby? Poxy?
 
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That kind of poop makes me so mad. I can't stand for someone to charge me good money to do a job and then not do it right!
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THEN, they leave and you can't get anyone else to call you back or to show up when they said they will.
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The reason I almost never hire anything out. Especially with such an old house with special needs. It would really make me mad to pay somebody to do something that I would have to fix. A couple years before I bought the house it was tuckpointed but they didn't know any better and used modern mortar, probably a type S. That's way too hard for bricks made around 1900. Every year more of it pops out. I've replaced about a third of it but when I get the means I need to redo the whole thing. Maybe I'll hire a good tuckpointer with the scaffolding and I'll mix it for them.
Many years earlier the front porch roof with slopes against a brick wall was flashed. They didn't cut the step flashing properly and over the years water got to the wood below and I had to replace everything above the porch ceiling including the ledger board imbedded in the brick. In the middle of it, the city code enforcement officer stopped by and said, "I can't see your permit displayed to do that construction." I said, "that's because I don't have a permit. I was just reroofing, found damaged wood and am just replacing the wood the same way it was before only correctly this time." He got in his truck and didn't come back.
Just before we bought it, the previous owner hired a "bricklayer", to replace the back wall of the carriage house that had fallen down for our occupancy permit. He started fine but about a third of the way up, the center of the wall started to rise faster than the ends. By the time he got near the roof the center was 6" below the roof line while the ends were a foot below. He had the stringline there but seemed to ignore it. Maybe he thought it was sagging and compensated.
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I haven't done it yet but I have to tear out about 80% of the wall and start over.

I just don't get the tiny dog thing, and I certainly don't wish to offend anyone, but why? If your dog can fit in your purse why not just get a cat? Some stores size discriminate, too. Could you see me walking in the Walgreens with Daisy? Of course she'd never fit in a purse...people would have a hissy. The drool alone. Okay, the drool could be hazardous to other shoppers so maybe they could possibly have a point.

The main part of our house was built in 1848. When we first moved in we had to remove about fifteen layers of wallpaper from the upstairs rooms. No closets. At all. I love it, though...it has so much character.

Big burly men. I love 'em. DH is 6'4" and stout. A Viking. Bawls like a baby all the time. Loves musicals. Both parents taught music and all of his siblings play an instrument. DH plays the trombone. He just made me sit through The Music Man for the umpteenth time the other day. I don't mind, I've made him watch 13th Warrior just as many times. People tease us all the time and claim that we have it all backwards because he does most of the cooking and cleaning and I'm the one watching sports. He collects old movies and I collect medieval weapons. (and play with them) He is scared of the roosters. And he's the perfect guy for me.
I always had big dogs until the wife bought our daughter a Pomeranian for Christmas. I wasn't real pleased, I wanted a Newfoundland. However, I have grown to really appreciate the size for one fabulous trait. They can't get on the table or counter. Things are even safe on the low coffee table. He could probably jump from the couch to the table but he's just afraid to do so.
When my son was in the hospital for a long time, the head nurse on his floor asked if we had a pet. We told her about the Pom and she said we could bring it in for a visit at night. We put it in the doggy purse and walked right in. My son appreciated it.
The dog's fairly big for a Pom now at about 11 pounds.
I can understand some small dogs, dachshunds are excellent trackers and terriers keep the rat and mouse population down. But chihuahuas I don't like, or breeds with too flat faces to breathe, or people who feed their dogs into lardballs.
Wife and daughter think pugs are cute. I don't get that at all.
Eye of the beholder I guess.

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Yes, yes, yes, I remember that episode - I loved WKRP - what a great show that was & also Night Court, and Barney Miller and probably a million others that didn't have nudity, or foul language - but, they made the audience crack up laughing.
I loved Barney Miller, what a fabulous cast.
Seinfeld was another favorite of mine.

I think nudity and foul language has it's uses too, as long as it isn't what's carrying a show. Good writing and good actors are the most important part in my opinion.
Nudity and foul language are part of real life. We're all naked at some point of the day and occasionally hit our thumb with a hammer.
Some countries freak out with nudity. Others tend to ignore it. A lot of small towns in Europe have fabulous recreation centers, usually with a pool, sauna, steam, and sometimes a gym. I remember the first time I went to one in Switzerland with a friend from Czechoslovakia I was skiing with. He suggested we go for a sauna and steam. I wasn't prepared for the fact that every part was co-ed, including the locker room and shower. There weren't very many people there and walking from the sauna to the shower I walked into another room which had tanning beds. There were two men and a woman in there, naked. I said, "Schuldigung" (shortened lazy Swiss version the German 'excuse me') and quickly closed the door. Then while showering, I pondered what I saw and surmised that maybe they were her brothers. Mid shower, she walked in naked because she had left her locker key in there. After the shower, I walked into the locker room. Lo and behold, her locker was right next to mine and she was just starting to get dressed. Strangers butt cheek to butt cheek. Several other people were there but I was the only one who had that 'deer in the headlights' look. After that night, I adopted the 'when in Rome, do as the Romans do' philosophy.
On a later trip with my wife to Austria we went to our hotel sauna wearing our swimwear just like we would in the US. After about 5 minutes 2 adult couples walked in, totally naked. I had forgotten to prepare my wife for that possibility. She immediately shot out of the sauna like out of a cannon. Now I really felt awkward as the only one with clothes on - IN A SAUNA. Do you think they figured I was an American without my uttering a word?
Most of the Americas are much more modest, especially much of Latin America. Native Bahamians are extremely modest as are Mexicans and Central Americans.
I have seen naked people walking down the road in Jamaica, I thought maybe they didn't own any clothes. Then there are the French sailboats in the Caribbean.

How much do they charge? I might have already asked you that but if I did, I forgot the answer and what it was posted under.
How many of your chickens will they test?
Houndit had it done and I read somewhere they test all the chickens over a certain age.
Free for the P-T test in Missouri regardless of how many birds. Each state is different but Missouri requires testing of every bird over 4 months.

For those interested, I gleaned this historical info about NPIP from the MO Dept. of Ag. site.

"The primary focus of the poultry health and improvement program is to administer the National Poultry Improvement Plan (NPIP). The NPIP is a state-federal-industry cooperative program that began in the 1930s to coordinate state efforts aimed at eliminating pullorum disease from poultry breeding flocks and hatcheries. Since the program’s inception, the NPIP has added provisions and changed programs to meet the changing needs of the poultry industry. The commercial poultry industry is free of pullorum disease after years of dedicated efforts by the states and poultry producers. However, outbreaks of pullorum disease occasionally occur and these outbreaks re-enforce the need for ongoing pullorum surveillance to maintain Missouri's federally granted Pullorum-Typhoid Clean State status. The last outbreak in Missouri was in 2004 and resulted in the direct depopulation of all poultry on 5 Missouri farms and 2 farms in Kansas. Infected poultry were shipped to 11 other states. These shipments resulted in testing and eradication costs for the customers and state agencies and may have potentially resulted in spreading pullorum disease to clean poultry farms.

Many states, including Missouri, require either a negative pullorum test within the past 90 days or participation in the NPIP for poultry to legally enter the state or be exhibited at public exhibitions (2CSR 30-2.40). A negative pullorum test is also required for a producer to legally sell day-old poultry and hatching eggs within the state of Missouri. The Poultry Health and Improvement Program encourages participation in the NPIP with a once-a-year pullorum test and other minimal requirements for record keeping and biosecurity. Flock certification and pullorum testing services are provided by advance appointment.

Since the program’s inception, the NPIP has added provisions and changed programs to meet the changing needs of the poultry industry. The NPIP offers programs for Salmonella enteritidis, Mycoplasma gallisepticum, Mycoplasma synoviae and Mycoplasma meleagridis and Avian Influenza. Participation in these additional categories may result in additional laboratory fees for the necessary testing."

So, one doesn't need to be in NPIP but still need a recent negative pullorum test.
I decided to do the NPIP so I could ship eggs and chicks around the country. But what I discovered is that by Missouri statute, one must be certified to even sell within the state. I did not know that.

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I just don't think cursing needs to be every other word out of someone's mouth or that they need to use cursing in place of a better word. I think I am going to go deaf the next time someone talks like that in front of me. I am not going to try to figure out what they said, I am just going to tell them I didn't understand a word they said. Wonder if that would work. I do have other family that talks that way and no, my kids didn't spend much time at all with them when they were young. I think it is TV, movies and friends that teach kids to talk like that. I always told mine that if they have to talk like that, they better do it away from home. I don't even want to hear it out in my yard. Ahh, movies, I got to put up with if I want to see the show but just because I watch them and listen to them doesn't mean I have to talk that way, and I don't so my kids should see me as an example.
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I've always tried not to curse. If the kids learned a bad word, it wasn't from me.
 
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A friend of mine had a guest from the States one midsummer, after they had been to the sauna he was wondering how he was supposed to tell his friends he spent hours in a sweaty room filled with naked men who were spanking him with birch branches, and he actually enjoyed it.
 

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