The Olive-Egger thread!

[DMRippy]

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I am not going to get in an EE discussion on this thread.... I get enough of that on the Ameraucana thread, but I missed that genetic information in my SOP.... I don't think a judge will wait for the chicks from a test mating to grow up to find that out before he DQ's a bird at a Show.

Just like they are not going to wait for an egg to be laid to make sure it is the right color for a Marans or Amerauacana. Just not going to happen.

I don't want Ameraucanas with one copy of the pea comb gene in my breeding program, just causes too many problems down the road. They SHOULD have 2 copies... but the SOP does not say that.

 

[nicalandia]

I don't want Ameraucanas with one copy of the pea comb gene in my breeding program, just causes too many problems down the road. They SHOULD have 2 copies... but the SOP does not say that.

the issue is, that Unlike Rosecomb which is completely dominant gene(meaning you cant distinguish a R/r+ from a R/R) pea comb is NOT completely dominant and you can clearly see(when adults) if they are heterozygous for the pea comb(P/p+)

 

[maryhysong]

the issue is, that Unlike Rosecomb which is completely dominant gene(meaning you cant distinguish a R/r+ from a R/R) pea comb is NOT completely dominant and you can clearly see(when adults) if they are heterozygous for the pea comb(P/p+)

Nicalandia, how can you tell the difference if they have 2 genes for pea comb or only one? Also, I've been wondering if there is any correlation between muffs & beards and the blue egg gene?

 

[jeremy]

Nicalandia, how can you tell the difference if they have 2 genes for pea comb or only one? Also, I've been wondering if there is any correlation between muffs & beards and the blue egg gene?

The shape of the comb.

A bird with 2 copies will have a small, tight comb. You can also test breed to see whether or not your birds are carrying 1 or 2 copies of the gene, simply breed them to a single combed bird. If your Ameraucanas have 2 copies their offspring will have what some call a "modified" pea comb where the combs basically look like a ugly mix of the two types, sorta like a lump of bubble gum on the birds head. If any offspring are born with a single comb then your Ameraucanas are only carrying 1 copy of the gene.

There is no connection between the blue egg gene and muffs/beards.

 

[maryhysong]

The shape of the comb.

A bird with 2 copies will have a small, tight comb. You can also test breed to see whether or not your birds are carrying 1 or 2 copies of the gene, simply breed them to a single combed bird. If your Ameraucanas have 2 copies their offspring will have what some call a "modified" pea comb where the combs basically look like a ugly mix of the two types, sorta like a lump of bubble gum on the birds head. If any offspring are born with a single comb then your Ameraucanas are only carrying 1 copy of the gene.

There is no connection between the blue egg gene and muffs/beards.

Thank you for that info, much appreciated!

 

[DMRippy]

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This roo threw lots of straight combs when breed with a WL. I don't have him anymore.



Never has thrown straight combs chicks



No straight combs from this guy either.



No correlation with beards and muffs. I have had plenty of EE without beards and muffs they laid pretty blue eggs. They all had pea combs.

The Blue egg genes are genetically VERY close to the Pea Comb gene and USUALLY travel together so that is why the suggestion is to keep the pea combs and they are MOST likely to have the blue egg genes too. When making Olive Eggers you are very likely to get a odd Pea Comb Like this poor roo


This guy is an Olive Egger. I really wanted to keep him and breed with him but he was VERY aggressive so he is no more.


This guy was breed as a Pure Wheaten AM, but he didn't have a beard or muff EVER. He was sold to me as an EE. Looking at his comb now he would have probably thrown straight combs too.... never got to breed him either.

 

[sol2go]

That is an SG Dorking X Wheaton Ameraucana. She was an accident--The Breeder did not separate the roos soon enough.

She is fantastic!

she looks so stout, due to the Dorking?
Thanks for the photo share.

 

[Birdragon]

I think my olive egger is a buff orp aracauna mix.

 

[DMRippy]

I think my olive egger is a buff orp aracauna mix.

That will make a green egg layer or EE. Olive Egger use a dark egg layer like a Marans.

 

[Hillschicks]

All the reading ive done says the pea comb is linked with the blue egg gene... Well, leave it to me to set eggs in our incubator that are EE crossed with Buff Brahma rooster, which also sports a pea comb... Safe to assume that is going to make it harder to tell if a chick will lay a green egg? Figure with a little luck we can have a good green egg layer about the time our welsummer rooster ia maturing and then we can cross her with him and hopefully end up with an olive egg layer... This sound right???