The Plymouth Rock Breeders thread

[Yard full o' rocks]

My FIL and I breed beagles for rabbit hunting. Be glad we don't discuss proper dog terminology the ladies wouldn't approve for sure

 

[Beekissed]

cock cock cock

Sorry, couldn't help it. Women must have dirty minds as I never gave it a second thought. When forums were pretty new we had to say old male because the program would not allow dirty words, and I think that would be fine as well as C. I don't think the Mods are trying to be overly technical, when you are breeding for quality, it really does make a difference whether you're using Cs or Ks, Hs or Ps. In my Father's world, Ks were called fryers and Cs didn't exist.

Actually, I doubt very seriously if the words you use about your breeding have any bearing whatsoever on the stock you produce. If so, you all would have show birds popping out of every egg. Proper terminology has it's place...on the job, when explaining something technical to those in the same profession, even in legal documents...but in my coop the birds don't give a flying fling about if I call them a chicken or a cow. What you breed and the quality thereof shows up out there on the grass, not in the lines of text on this or any other forum.

It's not a dirty mind that causes the reticence for the word but the years of training in the current culture. I'm doubting that reticence for saying the word will affect how well I can breed two birds together no more than your lack of medical terminology would affect you being able to produce a child.

 

[Wynette]

There's a reason we're stressing preferred poultry terminology in THIS SECTION. Of course, no one can MAKE a member use proper terminology, but per the note at the head of this section, it's expected here. Again, if you can't bring yourself to write "cock bird" or "cock," try using a "C" instead. I don't feel like that's asking too much.

 

[BGMatt]

There's a reason we're stressing preferred poultry terminology in THIS SECTION.  Of course, no one can MAKE a member use proper terminology, but per the note at the head of this section, it's expected here.  Again, if you can't bring yourself to write "cock bird" or "cock," try using a "C" instead.  I don't feel like that's asking too much.

Wynette, would not simply male and female also be correct since that is what the standard uses for it's descriptions such as type when age does not matter?

Very glad to see some education on proper terminology, it's much more respectful and less offensive this way! *two thumbs up*

 

[NYREDS]

There's a reason we're stressing preferred poultry terminology in THIS SECTION.  Of course, no one can MAKE a member use proper terminology, but per the note at the head of this section, it's expected here.  Again, if you can't bring yourself to write "cock bird" or "cock," try using a "C" instead.  I don't feel like that's asking too much.

As I assumed this section is shaping up to vary little from the rest of the site. There are already posts about crossing EEs with something else & several references to people's "babies". It was a nice idea, a forum for serious breeder, but it is after all BYC.

 

[rancher hicks]

There's a reason we're stressing preferred poultry terminology in THIS SECTION. Of course, no one can MAKE a member use proper terminology, but per the note at the head of this section, it's expected here. Again, if you can't bring yourself to write "cock bird" or "cock," try using a "C" instead. I don't feel like that's asking too much.

Does it really matter whether one says Rooster, male, Cock bird as long as it's understood? Please explain the reason and perhaps folks won't be off put.

 

[speckledhen]

As I assumed this section is shaping up to vary little from the rest of the site. There are already posts about crossing EEs with something else & several references to people's "babies". It was a nice idea, a forum for serious breeder, but it is after all BYC.

Good Lord, Bill, when you are God, you can control every word that comes from the mouth of every person on this forum. Until then, why not just try to live up to the badge that BYC gave you as an educator and EDUCATE rather than criticize this move only ONE day after it's beginning? You don't even participate in this thread most of the time that I'm aware of, but there you go again being "hit and run nasty". Please refrain. Sheesh.

If hen is a proper word, then so is rooster, in my opinion. "Roo" is slang, "rooster" is not. I read the new rules of the section. Never, ever thought of the word "rooster" as slang.

The term "cock bird" does not roll off my tongue naturally so I won't use it.

I was going to say something else, but I think not.

 

[Wynette]

Wynette, would not simply male and female also be correct since that is what the standard uses for it's descriptions such as type when age does not matter?

Very glad to see some education on proper terminology, it's much more respectful and less offensive this way! *two thumbs up*

Matt, good point; again, we can't MAKE folks use proper terminology; by if the word "cock" offends them, of course "male" and "female" will work. Probably would be a good idea to state the age as well, since "male" and "female" doesn't denote less than one year or over.

Does it really matter whether one says Rooster, male, Cock bird as long as it's understood? Please explain the reason and perhaps folks won't be off put.

Listen folks - I'll say it again - the preference is that anyone posting in this section use proper terminology. We can't MAKE anyone use proper terminology. I guess the way I look at it is not unlike just putting on a certain hat for a certain time....following suit, if you will - for example you wouldn't wear a full-length gown to the county fair, nor would you wear overalls to an opera. You wouldn't wear a full-length mink coat to the beach....I work in an office, and it's expected that I wear business attire. Most definitely, I'd rather be in holey jeans and t-shirt, but I do what's expected. Honestly - it's not that difficult.

 

[tigercreek]

While I understand the purpose and intent, the whole concept of these threads is in direct opposition to the concept of 'backyard chickens'. There are too many threads covering the different breeds already. I would have prefered to remove all but one thread for each breed and let the very serious folk skip the cutesy pics of the new TS chicks and let the folks that want to show off their new biddies just skip the discussion about the merits of a particular line. But, I ain't the God of this site either, so I'll just work my way around as best as I can. Respectfully.....
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[speckledhen]

I have no problem with the division; in fact, I was asked about my opinion during the planning stages and thought it might be a good idea, so please do not get the mistaken impression that I don't think it is a good one with good intent. I do, absolutely. But, I also hope that some of our more cantankerous breeder types don't get the mistaken notion that someone who wanders into this section, not understanding what it's supposed to be about, should be shooed away or treated like poop on someone's shoe. That is what I have a HUGE issue with and always will. I treat people with respect and expect the same from EVERYONE on this and other threads in this section, including the more crochety of our members.

There are breeders who willingly give of themselves and their knowledge on threads that are not specific to breeding and they explain things at the level of the person requesting it without grumbling. I like that and highly respect that. So, we could have done without the division, but I hope things settle down (boy, change comes with pain around here) and folks just chill and get back to the business at hand. There are other forums where someone is severely reprimanded if they use the word "roo", but I hope this never becomes one of them. Just gloss over it and get on with the discussion.

So, at the risk of acting like a moderator again, I think this is not a discussion thread about the change but about Plymouth Rock breeding.


BTW, I say rooster for a male bird over a year and cockerel for one under a year. I have no issues with cockerel. Rooster is a grown cockerel. That's what I'm going to use and in the immortal words of Forrest Gump, that's all I have to say about that.