The Rhodebar thread!

[RedRidge]

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Yep, Penny got it...
The key to autosexing is barring and wildtype.... crossing this way would give you female of no use, and the roos would only be single barred (and half wheaten).
So... while you would have males with one of the two barring genes... you'd have to then cross that male back to the Rhodebar female to make any progress.
That BC1 would result in half of the females being barred, but only half of those would be e+e+.
For the males... half of those would be single barred (cull), but half of the remaining double barred would be e+e+.

So... in theory... after two generations you could produce some improved RB... 1/4 of the males and 1/4 of the females... IF you could tell the e+e+ from the e+eWh... and IF they were easily autosexed and bred true.
It's just a longer more difficult way to get there.

That said... RB males are easy to come by if you have nice HRIR females.
I'm going to put quite a few in the freezer this year.... they are of no use to me. I will also be putting a LOT of F1 in the freezer... at least 40.

 

[Cynthia12]

I do have a nice HRIR. I just may have to find myself a nice RB. Thank you.

 

[melroseladi]

Sheri do you have an updated pics of that first F1 that hatched out? My solo chick in the RB/HRIR pen is lighter down and stripe. Not light light but lighter then my dark ones. My older batch of F1's are still very easy to tell who was dark and who was lighter.

Penny

 

[RedRidge]

OK... here is the first F1... hatched on 2-13
the first two pics were taken on 2-18





Here she is today 3-11
(she looks like a vulture in the 2nd pic - she was mad at me for putting her up there to take her pic. ha ha)

 

[melroseladi]

OK... here is the first F1... hatched on 2-13
the first two pics were taken on 2-18





Here she is today 3-11
(she looks like a vulture in the 2nd pic - she was mad at me for putting her up there to take her pic. ha ha)

I say cockerel lol. It has a lot of that white barring showing through like mine do, and nice dark red coloring. I can't wait to see how dark we can get these RB after a few generations.

 

[RedRidge]

I think the RC is going to make ita little more difficult to tell as early

 

[chickenaddict99]

OK... here is the first F1... hatched on 2-13 the first two pics were taken on 2-18 Here she is today 3-11 (she looks like a vulture in the 2nd pic - she was mad at me for putting her up there to take her pic. ha ha) So cute!

So cute!

 

[melroseladi]

I think the RC is going to make ita little more difficult to tell as early

I am thinking male because of the coloring and tail length as well as comb. My female RC had a very flat comb as a chick where as Tanker, my RC rooster's comb was more raised as a chick. The more I watch my F1's the more I am thinking that the coloring at hatch may be an indication of gender, which would be awesome if that pans out to be true. I am also seeing that they are feathering out much more quickly then my HRIR.

Penny

 

[RedRidge]

I think the RC is going to make ita little more difficult to tell as early

I am thinking male because of the coloring and tail length as well as comb. My female RC had a very flat comb as a chick where as Tanker, my RC rooster's comb was more raised as a chick. The more I watch my F1's the more I am thinking that the coloring at hatch may be an indication of gender, which would be awesome if that pans out to be true. I am also seeing that they are feathering out much more quickly then my HRIR.

Penny

Interesting theory. This single chick was about the color of my medium group in the larger hatch. So I have some that are much darker and some that ate much lighter.
If there is no connection to down and gender in the F1s I may hatch some BC1 from each extreme just to see what they produce

 

[melroseladi]

Interesting theory. This single chick was about the color of my medium group in the larger hatch. So I have some that are much darker and some that ate much lighter.
If there is no connection to down and gender in the F1s I may hatch some BC1 from each extreme just to see what they produce

Yes it would be great if that turns out to be the case. My darkest at hatching are the ones that aren't showing the whiteish at all. My lighter ones (both medium and lighter) are both showing whiteish with my lightest at hatch showing much more white then the medium at hatch. Very easy to tell the difference even at this age. My lightest chicks have much more white on their wings then the medium.

Penny