The Rhodebar thread!

[nicalandia]

To me they look like males, appears to be head spots. The more yellow chick down may mean they are carrying a wheaten gene, which I would not breed only because its adds to more hatching variables. I only see one female in the group. Hope someone else chimes in for confirmation.

I have been non-stop working on the eb gene while waiting on my Rhodebars to mature.

the dark male with a headspot is most likely a single barred male, meaning it only has one copy of the barring gene B/b+ as you can see they are still able to be sexed at hatch.

 

[har]

I am thinking that I am going go with Rhodebar rooster over a RIR.,I have both but I do have one question? If you get to the point of breeding single barred to each other and keep going with them will future generations down the road still have the auto sexing. From what I have been able to read it looks like you will be able to keep the auto sexing. Just want to make sure.
Thanks
Scott

 

[har]

P.S. Sorry I guess I have two questions. I have two young Roos, one is lighter then the other otherwise they look the same. If the darker one is already a single gene, I assume breeding him to a RIR the chicks would not be autosexing, is that correct.
Thanks again

 

[RedRidge]

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So... would you band the darkest two males just to track them as your potential breeding prospects?

 

[Makomd]

So... would you band the darkest two males just to track them as your potential breeding prospects?

No you would want the lighter ones, B/B for breeding to the RIR or Rhodebar.

The B/b+ could be mated back to the Rhodebar hen though and the offspring would be fine and pure Rhodebar Male and Female.

In the UK they show the darker ones as they are much darker and vibrant in color than the lighter.

 

[melroseladi]

I would also use the lighter ones for breeding. I also would cull any that are yellow and not breed them. I wish I knew more about genetics but I have learned a lot from the experts on this thread. I had a Rhodebar cockerel picked out and was carrying it around when I found out that it had hatched out yellow (eggs came out of Tennessee). I gave him back to the breeder and picked out a different cockerel that was hatched from eggs that came from the West Coast.

I will be putting my Rhodebar cockerel over my two biggest HRIR hens with the nicest type then breed back to the cockerel.

Penny

 

[RedRidge]

Ok. Now I'm throroughly confused.
Correct any of my assumptions if I'm wrong...

As adult I want single barred males (ultimately) and never double barred.

As chicks... Double barred males are darker and I thought would single barred and darker as adults and the preference for quality Rhodebars would be the darker. But... If what I'm understanding is correct then you really want double barred Roos if you are going to use them on RIR. But the lightest chicks aren't what you want ultimately? As Rhodebars? Even tho they are single barred?

Ok... Where am I wrong?
I know what I want the Rhodebars to look like as adults... I'm confused about what I am looking for in chicks.

And now possibly confused about needing different qualities color wise in chicks to cross with rir to improve the Rhodebar than what I'll ultimately want the "ideal Rhodebar"

Ugh... Confused. And I thought I finally understood after reading this thread over and over again. Help!?!

 

[melroseladi]

For me I want double barred male adult Rhodebars because I want to breed to the true breed. True Rhodebar roosters are double barred, as I understand it, which would make the male lighter in color. Some people prefer the coloring of a single barred male because they are darker, redder in color. I am going to try to breed true and get the correct coloring as well as correct type.

Your lighter male chicks should be double barred and your darker male chicks should be single barred.

Penny

 

[Makomd]

Penny is correct.

Double barring will make auto sexing the easiest by lightening the feather color significantly. A Male(light male) having B/B (double dose of barring) has to pass a barring gene onto all chicks.

This is what you ultimately want when breeding to a RIR. The hens and the cocks will all be barred because their father passed on the barring gene (he had a double dose of barring).




A male (dark male) with one barring gene B/b will only pass barring to half the chicks (which would make for more hatching and more generations to get to your goal) of better type Rhodebar.

Sorry if I confused you.


***Don't mind what I said about the showing in UK, for practical use the double barred male is what you want.****

 

[RedRidge]

For me I want double barred male adult Rhodebars because I want to breed to the true breed. True Rhodebar roosters are double barred, as I understand it, which would make the male lighter in color. Some people prefer the coloring of a single barred male because they are darker, redder in color. I am going to try to breed true and get the correct coloring as well as correct type.

Your lighter male chicks should be double barred and your darker male chicks should be single barred.

Penny

So... in a perfect world... would be want the Rhodebar males to be double barred but darker? HRIR are very dark. I thought the standard for Rhodebars was a barred RIR? If that's the case... wouldn't the "ideal" Rhodebar rooster be as dark as possible BUT still be double barred?

Also... what do the really light "yellow" chicks grow up like?