The Supreme Court's Gun Ruling This Week - Not A Debate

[PurpleChicken]

There is nothing Socialist about the Post Office. It is owned and subsidized by the
government but runs as an almost private entity. It has a clear chain of command
and for the most part functions fine. Just because something belongs to the federal
government does not mean it's socialist. Is the military socialist?

Socialistic ideas when acted on by the Supreme Court is not only scary but is not
the mandate of the court.

I don't like labels either and have had a hard time labeling anyone in this thread.


I can't believe this thread is still going and there have been no fights yet.

 

[PurpleChicken]

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Kapow! And I mean Homerun City. You hit it outta the park, right there.

Aint no rhetorical sugar coatin' on that one. You're someone who gets it.

yup. That was perfect. Both of you!!

 

[bluey]

I have real issues when the Supreme Court tries to federalize decisions. There is no reason why many decisions can't be left to the states decide. That is a brand of socialism.

The other decision that got very little play was the child rape/capital punishment case (Kennedy vrs the state of Louisiana). The decision made was that capital punishment was deemed too harsh of a sentence for aggravated child rape of an eight year old by her stepdad. La. was one of a few states to offer the death penalty in such cases. The liberal and/or socialist Supreme Court justices could have left it up to the states to decide but chose to (in a 5-4 vote) decide against the consideration of the death penalty in these cases.

I don't know about you people, but I find many instances of child rape to be MORE heinous than murder.

This was a bad, bad decision that takes away the deterrent of the death penalty for future offenders. I'm not necessarily saying that all instances of child rape should demand the death penalty, but why take options away from the states???

It makes my blood boil. And a few liberal judges are up for retirement in the next few years. I know many people don't pay attention to Supreme Court decisions (except for abortion), but THEY SHOULD!

 

[Rosalind]

I'm pretty clear on what the word "Socialist" means

Really? Gosh. Can you explain it to me then? AFAIK, we've got Bernie Sanders in the Senate, and he's our first and only Socialist government official, ever.

I think what you mean to say is "paternalistic" or perhaps "interventionist." There are very few real Socialist countries in the world, till all is said and done. Most are either Capitalist, some mixture of Capitalist and (whatever else) or dictatorships. I don't mean to be persnickety about semantics, but I think it's important to make these distinctions lest they blur into slurs. Remember also that Socialism doesn't mean the same thing to Rush Limbaugh as it does to, say, Fredrik Reinfeldt (prime minister of Sweden).​

 

[BuckeyeDave]

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What is a president’s legacy? The judges they appoint, long after the term is over the judge is voting their favor. After his term the next president can make change on most everything, but the justices stay, it is the main thing that concerns me about a presidency.
Here’s something really scary, Imagine Barak Hussein Obama winning the white house and appointing Hillary Clinton as a justice.
Peace,
Dave

 

[DuckyBoys]

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Really? Gosh. Can you explain it to me then? AFAIK, we've got Bernie Sanders in the Senate, and he's our first and only Socialist government official, ever.

I think what you mean to say is "paternalistic" or perhaps "interventionist." There are very few real Socialist countries in the world, till all is said and done. Most are either Capitalist, some mixture of Capitalist and (whatever else) or dictatorships. I don't mean to be persnickety about semantics, but I think it's important to make these distinctions lest they blur into slurs. Remember also that Socialism doesn't mean the same thing to Rush Limbaugh as it does to, say, Fredrik Reinfeldt (prime minister of Sweden).

No, that wasn't what I meant to say. I pretty much said what I wanted to and that's that. You're free to have another opinion, but THIS one is mine, regardless of how many people try to twist it around.

 

[Oblio13]

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The military is fascist. Ironic in a society that claims to be democratic, but that's the only effective way to run a martial enterprise.

 

[I have WHAT in my yard?]

How many of you (without instantly googling) know who Horatio Alger, David Smith and Milton Friedman are? DO you know why a writer of fiction is included in the group?

The socialism label is poorly used in this country as it is frequently poorly understood. Few people (I'm sure many of you here do) understand the difference between socialism and communism and know that Karl Marx once said "If this is communism then I am not a communist."

There are no truly pure capitalistic societies. We all live in some mixed market economy because all governments eventually find that pure capitalism is bad for the economy and society.

It is true that too few people pay attention to the Supreme Court. But, I could make a valid argument that this court is too conservative. Ask yourself does conservative mean less government in the economy or less government in the family and home? If you agree that government should get out of both then you should agree that gun owning AND abortion should be legal. Again, most people do not see that correlation, but it goes to the role of government in controlling individual people's behaviors.

 

[bluey]

There are no truly pure capitalistic societies. We all live in some mixed market economy because all governments eventually find that pure capitalism is bad for the economy and society.

Excellent point! That is our current example of financial brand socialism with the government meddling in financial markets (bailing out banks, over-regulating, crazy legislation such as windfall taxes, etc...) to the point that there isn't even true capitalism in the US by any means. Redistribution of wealth should never be a concern of a purely capitalistic economy.

But feelgood politicians use it to buy votes unfortunately.​

 

[purr]

I'm a democrat, a liberal and if you want my gun , you can pry it out of my cold dead hands.