The Supreme Court's Gun Ruling This Week - Not A Debate

[I have WHAT in my yard?]

Dag! I hate it when I make mistakes! The list is Horatio Alger, ADAM Smith and Milton Friedman....

Sorry!

 

[Oblio13]

I have WHAT in my yard? :

Dag! I hate it when I make mistakes! .......

As do I. But then, it's very unusual. Such a rarity as to hardly be worth mentioning. Such an anomaly, so fantastically uncommon, so extraordinarily novel that I don't know why I even commented on it.​

 

[Cetawin]

I have a conceal carry permit and a Sig. So....that says almost all about my feelings on the 2nd Amendment. However, I do not think the founding fathers, as it were, really meant specifics on what type of arms but merely gave us the right to bear them.

This household has both rifle and handgun, a few black powders, shotguns, several bows and 2 adults who know how to use them and will if need be. They are also all secure and away from children. Should a child get one of the guns from the safe, they would not have ammo for it because that is not kept where they could find it. I believe I have the right as a human being to defend/protect myself and my family, the 2nd Amendment gives me the right to do so legally.

The bad guys will always get guns and they will not go away regardless of what the gun laws are. Washington D.C. is the most violent crime infested place in this country and that will not change with or without gun laws. Sheesh, we cannot keep illegal automatic weapons from crossing our borders, it would be impossible to get rid of guns entirely.

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[summerwindsfarm]

I have WHAT in my yard? :

Ask yourself does conservative mean less government in the economy or less government in the family and home? If you agree that government should get out of both then you should agree that gun owning AND abortion should be legal. Again, most people do not see that correlation, but it goes to the role of government in controlling individual people's behaviors.

If you truely believe that correlation then you'd have to believe its okay for ppl to kill each other, or their children or their parents because they are a inconvenience. Gov. needs to not tell us as individuals what do with *our* lives, and our healths (i really hate seatbelt laws..i wear my seatbelt but if i dont i only kill myself..should be no ones business but mine). Abortion on the other hand isnt just about our life or our health..it kills the unborn child and many of us believe that *no one* has the right to take the life of another except to protect their own.

To say... i have the right to own a gun is one thing. To say i have the right to shoot anyone that bothers me is another. To say that i have the right to control my body and what goes in it and what i do with it is one thing. To say i have the right to kill the child growing in me because i dont want the hassle for 9 months..is another. Our *rights* are only solely our *rights* as long as they do no serious harm to others..thus we strictly protect freedom of speech..but no on has the *right* to yell *fire* in a crowded movie theater.

If society had no rules/laws we'd have anarchy..and thats just as bad, imo, as too much government.​

 

[ChuckenGirl]

politics are stupid--opinion of a 15 year old who lives in maryland
the state with the 2nd highest taxes


ETA: I have no clue what most of you are talking about because you use words that are pretty large, i bet webster couldn't define them, so with that said...

 

[Oblio13]

... Abortion on the other hand ...

Aaannd they're off! SummersWindFarm on OffTopic passes IHaveWhatInMyYard, ChuckenGirl bringing up the rear on WithOutAClue, TerrieLacy gaining on the outside with TheBanHammer!






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[Cetawin]

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I disagree. The States cannot decide on issues that require all states in unison. You would have chaos. The same issue came up when prohibition was ended...it still goes on today. You cannot get it here so you drive across the county or state line and buy it there, transport it back. That solves nothing. It is not socialism it is realism and fact. If you do not have uniform aka federal laws governing certain things, then you have 50 states, each with a different take on the issue and none of them resolving the issue.

That is the very reason federal law trumps state law, it is a good system and effective. While I do not agree with the majjority of rulings made by the Supreme Court, they are there for a reason.

I think the bigger issue of concern is WHO is in the legislature writing the bills to be passed and who is in office as decision-maker. We need adequate, fair and responsible representation before we can begin to worry about Federal law trumping State laws and trust me...if you read some of the laws on the books to this day, you would cringe.

Why in Boston, it is law...if your wife commits adultery, embarrasses, harms your reputation within the community, or humiliates you, you may take her to the town square and publically beat her. That was still on the books as a binding law 2 years ago. Yet, cross two state borders and you can ride your horse in town but not on the sidewalk and you cannot have sex with someone who is not your spouse in a hotel room. So...yup I trust the States to govern themselves on a huge issue when they cannot get the stupid or little ones re-written.

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[DuckyBoys]

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Ahhh, but your reading the thread aren't you! That makes you intelligent enough to understand some things are worth knowing about and having an opinion on.

 

[DuckyBoys]

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Aaannd they're off! SummersWindFarm on OffTopic passes IHaveWhatInMyYard inside, ChuckenGirl bringing up the rear on WithOutAClue, TerrieLacy gaining on the outside with TheBanHammer!






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Oblio...who ARE you? LOL...your posts crack me up.

 

[Cetawin]

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I do not think that is what was meant at all.

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So, it is okay for the government to tell you what to do with your body if it suits your moral position but NOT when it inconveniences you or is not to your liking?

So then I assume that you have would have no issue with making drugs legal, taxing them and allowing kids to have them with parents' permission of course? Or not have a problem with a woman, married or not, NOT having a say as to what is done with her body?

Abortion is NOT about taking the life of an embryo (not fetus as almost every state prohibits abortion of a VIABLE fetus) it is about a woman's right to choose what happens to her body.

I personally would never have the procedure because my two children are precious to me just as the 9 I lost in mis-carriage are but it will be a cold day in H**L before ANYONE, man or government tells me what I can or cannot do with my body. Husband included!

Most women who get pregnant and who seek abortions are single women...why would they consider it? Most cannot provide for the child themselves and have no man there to help or do not want him there to help, do not want the hassle of court battles to get him to help and do not want to "give" a child away that will one day ask why and coming knocking on her door. But in any case, it is her body, her life and her choice to live it as she sees fit. Which is exactly what you want as long as it is not abortion...then the government must tell us what to do?

Have you ever been in a neo-natal intensive care unit and seen the number of 1 lb babies born to drug abusers that face nothing but a life of illness, surgeries and/or deformities...IF they survive? I have.

My daughter was a preemie and weighed 2 lbs. 10 ounces (I had severe eclampsia and a stroke so they took her C-Section)...I and one other woman were the only parents in that nursery for 4 weeks....there were 28 babies in there that were brought into this world and then abandoned by drug addicts or healthy women who did not want to be bothered. I watched one little boy go through 6 surgeries in 4 weeks with a prognosis of 'nothing more to do for him'. I watched 8 of them die receiving the best possible care humankind could give them and they suffered. Now I cannot say how you would feel but I think those poor babies would be better off never coming into this world than to come in for pain, sickness and abandonment and MOST often to merely die after their suffering.

Morals and laws should never mix but individual rights and law should. Just my 2 cents worth.