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aart said:
I think it might be...may depend on color of tail fluff....may also depend on who is doing the judging and where said judging is being done.
Ask here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/welsummerclubofnorthamerica/
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Some APA SOP copyrights have been taken off of websites so I couldn't find out what the DQs were. I'm not on Facebook and don't wish to be so your link didn't help me but I truly appreciate your
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I was thinking of keeping him an doing a cross between him and my jubile orps and maybe my Swedish flower hens but I'm not the best at genetics it will be my first.

Is there anything he is lacking?
 
SOHC-FTW said:
I was thinking of keeping him an doing a cross between him and my jubile orps and maybe my Swedish flower hens but I'm not the best at genetics it will be my first.

Is there anything he is lacking?
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At 4 months he isn't mature enough. If memory will serve me right I believe that their color develops until one year. My boys seemed to 'brighten' up their colors through their first birthday. They also 'filled out' more as they matured.

I'd be interested in seeing what you get from that cross. I have Welsummer rooster over a Speckled Sussex hen chicks right now that are 6 weeks old and turned out to be sex linked. The little girl has salmon mottled colored breast feathers and the the little boy black with mottling on his chest. My Welsummer Buff O crosses are pretty birds. The roosters have various shades of 'buff' as their primary colors and Welsummer blue/black/green tailfeathers. The hens are a pretty burnish orange/buff color with dark tail feathers. I'm anxious to see what color eggs they lay.
 
SOHC-FTW said:
I was thinking of keeping him an doing a cross between him and my jubile orps and maybe my Swedish flower hens but I'm not the best at genetics it will be my first.

Is there anything he is lacking?
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microchick said:
At 4 months he isn't mature enough. If memory will serve me right I believe that their color develops until one year. My boys seemed to 'brighten' up their colors through their first birthday. They also 'filled out' more as they matured.

I'd be interested in seeing what you get from that cross. I have Welsummer rooster over a Speckled Sussex hen chicks right now that are 6 weeks old and turned out to be sex linked. The little girl has salmon mottled colored breast feathers and the the little boy black with mottling on his chest. My Welsummer Buff O crosses are pretty birds. The roosters have various shades of 'buff' as their primary colors and Welsummer blue/black/green tailfeathers. The hens are a pretty burnish orange/buff color with dark tail feathers. I'm anxious to see what color eggs they lay.
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What all are your reasons for crossing beautiful Wellies with other breeds? For fun? For genetic hardiness? For certain egg color? The offspring of cross-breeds won't breed true so -- not judging -- just wondering. Something to consider is hatchling mutts will be hard to re-home should an emergency occur where they might need to be placed - unless there are plans to raise the mixed offspring for meat? For myself I've kept my breeds true and relieved I did because I had to re-home several bully hens that turned out easier to re-home because they were not mixed breeds. In the city it is more of a challenge for us when it comes to finding homes for unwanted purebred cockerels let alone mixed breed males. I had to travel several counties away to find a rescue home for unwanted cockerels/roos to place a rare cockerel that was shipped to us by mistake and it would've been a tragedy to eat him! In our local feed store the back room is filled with cages from owners of beautiful purebred roos that can't find homes because of roo zoning restrictions. The mixed breed males don't have a chance in Hades of even finding a free home unless it's for someone's dinner table! We've made our flock into such personable pets that we can't eat them -- DH will do his best to find even the mean ones a home rather than see them go to a dinner table LOL!
 
Sylvester017 said:
What all are your reasons for crossing beautiful Wellies with other breeds? For fun? For genetic hardiness? For certain egg color? The offspring of cross-breeds won't breed true so -- not judging -- just wondering. Something to consider is hatchling mutts will be hard to re-home should an emergency occur where they might need to be placed - unless there are plans to raise the mixed offspring for meat? For myself I've kept my breeds true and relieved I did because I had to re-home several bully hens that turned out easier to re-home because they were not mixed breeds. In the city it is more of a challenge for us when it comes to finding homes for unwanted purebred cockerels let alone mixed breed males. I had to travel several counties away to find a rescue home for unwanted cockerels/roos to place a rare cockerel that was shipped to us by mistake and it would've been a tragedy to eat him! In our local feed store the back room is filled with cages from owners of beautiful purebred roos that can't find homes because of roo zoning restrictions. The mixed breed males don't have a chance in Hades of even finding a free home unless it's for someone's dinner table! We've made our flock into such personable pets that we can't eat them -- DH will do his best to find even the mean ones a home rather than see them go to a dinner table LOL!
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Why not? It's my personal preference for one thing. Mutts can be stronger and healthier than their pure bred parents and I enjoy seeing the variety of colors in my flock.Each clutch of eggs my broody hen hatches for me show different color variations and patterns that are in their own right beautiful. Granted, nothing is much prettier than my pure Welly roosters, but my Welsummer, Buff O cockerels are just as pretty and personable without my Welsummer roosters proclivity towards being aggressive at times. I didn't buy my chickens with the plan to segregate them and breed them for genetic purity. We live on a farm. We ultimately wanted a flock of mixed breed chickens that would be heat tolerant and cold hardy and I chose Welsummers and Buff O's with those traits in mind. Our winters can be brutal and our summers unforgiving where we live

I am not breeding to sell chickens. Our flock right now is up to 31 Buff Orpington, Welsummer, Speckled Sussex pure and cross bred chickens. Our extra roosters are in a spacious bachelor pen and are treated like royalty. We do not eat our birds unless we are starving and so far that hasn't happened. The only birds I have rehomed are overly aggressive males and so far I have had no problem in getting rid of the two that I have had. It didn't bother me that one was going to the table. Not after he flew at my face one day while I was kneeling on the ground.

Perhaps things are different for city dwellers then they are for country folks. Most people around us Amish and non Amish have mixed flocks of birds. Genetic purity is something for people who are breeders strive for not for the the local general chicken keeper. If that is what floats your boat, good for you. Other breed, including mixed breeds are just as beautiful as pure bred Welsummers.

Consider the possibilities..................
 

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