The Wyandotte Thread

[msladyhawke]

I got them! They are molting so they will improve. This is a breeding pair about 15-18 months old from Foley. This roo alone was worth the drive

Wow! Lucky you! He IS very handsome.

 

[cluckadoddledoo]

Oh dear just when I thought things couldn't get any more enticing just came across these!!!

http://www.wyandottes.org.uk/ Chocolate cream.... scrummy!

 

[slick4591]

I got them!  They are molting so they will improve.  This is a breeding pair about 15-18 months old from Foley.   This roo alone was worth the drive

Wow! If these are their culls... Beautiful birds! Hope mine grow out as nice as these.

 

[DMRippy]

Isnt blue on splash 50 percent blue, 25 % black and 25% splash??

Splash can't produce any Black chicks only blue or splash. Splash to black would be 100% blue.

 

[DMRippy]

Quote: These are NOT culls. He is reducing his flock. He is not going to be selling chicks next year and these are from his breeding pens and he is just thinning them down since he is not going to be hatching as much next year.

I GOT AN EGG from her!

I didn't expect any egg since she is molting

 

[Countrypunk92]

Splash can't produce any Black chicks only blue or splash.  Splash to black would be 100% blue.

Oh yea I knew that. Its blue to blue produces black. I am still tired, brain not thinking right.

 

[Countrypunk92]

These are NOT culls.  He is reducing his flock.  He is not going to be selling chicks next year and these are from his breeding pens and he is just thinning them down since he is not going to be hatching as much next year.

I GOT AN EGG from her!  I didn't expect any egg since she is molting e

QUICK! PUT IT IN THE BATOR! LMAO

 

[Bleenie]

Black x Black = 100% Black
Black x Blue = 50% blue & 50% black
Black x Splash = 100% blue
Blue x Blue = 50% blue, 25% black, 25% splash
Blue x Splash = 50% Blue & 50% splash
Splash x Splash = 100% Splash

I think that's right.

ETA: i think this is right too, thought it was worth adding.
Blue is Black with 1 dilution gene
Splash is Black with 2 dilution genes

 

[AinaWGSD]

Black x Black = 100% Black
Black x Blue = 50% blue & 50% black
Black x Splash = 100% blue
Blue x Blue = 50% blue, 25% black, 25% splash
Blue x Splash = 50% Blue & 50% splash
Splash x Splash = 100% Splash

I think that's right.

ETA: i think this is right too, thought it was worth adding.
Blue is Black with 1 dilution gene
Splash is Black with 2 dilution genes

Right. Splash has two copies of the blue gene. Because a splash bird has two copies of blue, any chick produced by that bird has to inherit one copy of the blue gene from the splash parent. Therefor, a splash bird can not produce a black chick. A blue bird has only one copy of blue, and one copy of black. So any chick produced by a blue bird has a 50% chance of inheriting the blue gene from the blue parent and a 50% chance of inheriting the black gene from the blue parent. Which is why when you breed a blue to a blue, you can get some black chicks because there is a 25% chance that the chick will inherit the black gene from both parents (also why you get some splash chicks...there is a 25% chance that the chick will inherit the blue gene from both parents). When you breed blue to splash, then 100% of the chicks will inherit the blue gene from the splash parent (hence no black chicks possible as each chick will get at least one copy of the dilution gene) and 50% will inherit the blue gene from the blue parent (making a splash chick) and 50% will inherit the black gene from the blue parent (making a blue chick).

 

[cluckadoddledoo]

Right. Splash has two copies of the blue gene. Because a splash bird has two copies of blue, any chick produced by that bird has to inherit one copy of the blue gene from the splash parent. Therefor, a splash bird can not produce a black chick. A blue bird has only one copy of blue, and one copy of black. So any chick produced by a blue bird has a 50% chance of inheriting the blue gene from the blue parent and a 50% chance of inheriting the black gene from the blue parent. Which is why when you breed a blue to a blue, you can get some black chicks because there is a 25% chance that the chick will inherit the black gene from both parents (also why you get some splash chicks...there is a 25% chance that the chick will inherit the blue gene from both parents). When you breed blue to splash, then 100% of the chicks will inherit the blue gene from the splash parent (hence no black chicks possible as each chick will get at least one copy of the dilution gene) and 50% will inherit the blue gene from the blue parent (making a splash chick) and 50% will inherit the black gene from the blue parent (making a blue chick).

That makes perfect sense thankyou! In horsey terms we would call spash a double dilute / homozygous splash, an example of which would be cremello homozygous for the cream gene.

Slightly off topic how many base colours are found in chickens? In equines we only have two, black & red and everything else are modifiers of the base colour.. chcikens are evidently far more complex... going to be fun learning from you guys