This is why we don't trade outside of our personally known group!!!

[Wifezilla]

ALL price subsidies

But we can start with dairy

 

[Buster52]

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Yup. Give us a level playing field and we'll kick big ag's rear.

 

[cracked_egg]

Honestly, please don't throw eggs, and I only read a few pages.... But I want to know that the people I'm buying from have either a cottage license or commercial kitchen (when buying food).... While it is all fine and dandy to say "God made dirt and dirt don't hurt" I don't want to eat other people's dirt!... While the average home baker can have pets, if you have a cottage license (in my state) you can not have a pet in the house. They do not allow you to sell anything that must be refrigerated... To me this is worth it (an honest commercial kitchen can sell foods that need chilled, but they have to prove they're keeping them at the correct temps)

Bottom line, for me, is that I don't know what your home environment is when I meet you for two seconds at a farmers market (and I don't buy anything baked for that very reason)... You could look perfectly normal yet have mold growing in pots and pans at home, thirty cats and may or may not wash your hands before cooking... No thanks.

I decorate cakes, and feel the same way. Yes it restricts me, and I do a gorgeous job, people tell me I should go into biz, but the cost of it keeps me from doing it... So while the laws cramp my style, I'm still grateful for them....

 

[jodief100]

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Anyone who didn't see this coming is an idiot. The entire POINT was to help the deadbeats. Don't you remember the politicians touting this that is was going to help the “little guy” who “can’t” pay his bills because of the “punitive fees” the credit card companies charge. I didn’t pay fees because I paid my bills on time. I heard that and knew that if they couldn’t charge those fees, someone would have to make up the difference and it was going to be me. I used to work in credit card collections, miserable job. From my personal experience of 1 year collecting for a Department Store credit card I discovered a VERY SCARY thing. At least 80% of the people I spoke with their only concern was “what is the minimum I have to pay in order to get my card TURNED BACK ON”?!?!?!? This was a high end department store, not people charging their groceries and gas. It is not that these people CAN’T pay their bills. They just have their priorities screwed up. Yes, I understand some people have problems through no fault of their own, be it a lay off or medical issues. That is what Bankruptcy is supposed to be for.

I also prefer to buy things produced in a certified kitchen and meat processed at an inspected facility. But I would like the choice to be mine. If it is someone I know and trust I would like to have the option to buy from them without the government getting in the way.

Yes, there should be these inspections, licenses and inspections, but they should be OPTIONAL. If people choose to remain ignorant, that is their problem.

Get rid of the ALL price subsidies. If people knew what the real cost of things was perhaps they would appreciate it a little more.

 

[scooter147]

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I respect your opinion, however, like you said you have a choice and choose not to but I want the gov't out of my business. I too do not buy anything cooked at a farmers market but I whole firmly believe it should be our choice and not some gov't jaw flapper that doesn't realize you don't need a rooster for a hen to lay an egg or realize that a milk cow must be breed in order to produce milk and trust me most of them don't know these two facts. If a person wants to issue that their food is regulated or inspected etc. etc. etc. then they need to stick to the grocery stores.

My sister worked in the restaurant industry for years and she always has said if you knew what went on in a restaurant kitchen or the sanitary conditions of most kitchens you wouldn't eat out. On the occasions we all go out as a family at times she has trouble eating because all these images are running through her mind. The restaurants she worked for were not "mom and pops" they were national chains.

We have so many laws and regulations now it's amazing that putting the left foot on the floor before the right in the morning when you get out of bed isn't against some law. Maybe I better google that before I say it is'nt. ;-)

 

[scooter147]

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Anyone who didn't see this coming is an idiot. The entire POINT was to help the deadbeats. Don't you remember the politicians touting this that is was going to help the “little guy” who “can’t” pay his bills because of the “punitive fees” the credit card companies charge. I didn’t pay fees because I paid my bills on time. I heard that and knew that if they couldn’t charge those fees, someone would have to make up the difference and it was going to be me. I used to work in credit card collections, miserable job. From my personal experience of 1 year collecting for a Department Store credit card I discovered a VERY SCARY thing. At least 80% of the people I spoke with their only concern was “what is the minimum I have to pay in order to get my card TURNED BACK ON”?!?!?!? This was a high end department store, not people charging their groceries and gas. It is not that these people CAN’T pay their bills. They just have their priorities screwed up. Yes, I understand some people have problems through no fault of their own, be it a lay off or medical issues. That is what Bankruptcy is supposed to be for.

I also prefer to buy things produced in a certified kitchen and meat processed at an inspected facility. But I would like the choice to be mine. If it is someone I know and trust I would like to have the option to buy from them without the government getting in the way.

Yes, there should be these inspections, licenses and inspections, but they should be OPTIONAL. If people choose to remain ignorant, that is their problem.

Get rid of the ALL price subsidies. If people knew what the real cost of things was perhaps they would appreciate it a little more.

I actually work in the banking industry (for the record the bank I work for didn't participate in sub prime lending) and what frustrates me is that with all the new rules put into place on lending institutions is that many laws HAD already existed to prevent the type of lending that was occuring. The problem was our federal gov't chose to do two things 1. look the other way 2. not staff the Dept. of HUD and other agencies properly to enforce the laws already on the books. I would call and complain about certain mortgage brokers in my area about false advertising/advertising the violated the law and predator lending but NOTHING was ever done.

 

[Wifezilla]

Remember when all those kids died after eating contaminated burgers from Jack in the Box years ago? The restaurant was government inspected and approved. The beef was USDA inspected. Just sayin'

I think if something is home produced it should say home produced. If it was produced under some kind of license, put that on the label. Then let the consumer decide.

 

[Keens2050]

Here in Pennsylvania we can't do Bake Sales anymore. This was always a big fund raiser for different events - even did it to raise money for Haiti. Give me a break! Too many government rules! I suppose next we can't go to Grandma's house for Thanksgiving because she doesn't have a food safety permit and is serving to more than 20 people! Arrrggg!

 

[JoAnn_WI_4-H_Mom]

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Yes. The lawmaker waives a bill over his head and says "this new law will protect us!" but taxes would have to be raised to enforce it and no one (including me) wants higher taxes. Greed exists and is hard to regulate.

 

[JoAnn_WI_4-H_Mom]

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This morning we discovered the next valley over is now quarantined for TB. A farmer bought out a herd in Ohio, it had all the proper paperwork, but the seller had worked up the paperwork on his home computer. The herd was infected, and now NO farmer in the valley can sell any animals until all the herds tests clean for a period of time. Note they can still sell milk, as TB is not passed through milk. Also they are not wholesale slaughtering the cattle, just infected animals.

The guy in Ohio is just plain greedy and immoral. I do not see how any one could justify what he has done. Every farmer in the valley should sue the @#$%^.

What wifezilla said, regulations will not prevent bad things from happening. In the case of the Jack in the Box, they were using raw-meat contaminated utensils on about-to-be-served food. A bad practice, which might occur in any kitchen or mass food processing facility regardless of regulation.

This Ohio farmer is just criminal, no regulation will prevent a criminal from acting as they please.

The "government" is trying to prevent a bad thing from getting worse by quarantining the herds. Does the forum think this is a bad thing? I don't believe anyone thinks all regulations are bad just because there are bad practices or criminals out there. So is this regulation ok?

Sorry, getting way off the Original Post, which is don't-sell-legally-questionable-but-probably-healthy-food-products-outside-of-a-known-group-of-quiet-people-as-the-government-will-raid-you.