It was mentioned on another thread and I agreed that the TOTW suggested feeding guidelines seem a bit high. Only needing closer to 2 cups for an 80lb dog would not be at all uncommon to me and about what my 80lb akita is willing to eat. Our only problem was that the akita will not eat meals, one of the few dogs who will starve herself to health problems, and the shiba was turning in to a little barrel making off with so much TOTW. None of my akita's relatives will get fat on any food while I know many dogs that will get fat on any food they are free fed. It all depends on the individual. For many it also depends on the brand of food with different brands or flavors being more or less appealing to each dog. We've been feeding diamond naturals to the shiba and then a can of totw plus other things to the akita. We just picked up some kent Native 3 at the new feedstore to try out. So far the akita inhaled 1 cup of it today. It was about $40/40lbs where the TOTW bags we were buying are a bit over $40 for 30lbs but it's not grain free. The grains used are better ones like oats and barley with rice instead of corn or wheat which are more likely to cause allergies and other health problems. 30% protein, 20% fat, and 4,409kcals/kg. We're hoping this is tasty enough and concentrated enough to get her to eat all she needs at least throughout the night while the shiba is in the crate.