Treating for cocci - what should I expect?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by meadrian, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. meadrian

    meadrian Songster

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    I'm treating an 8 week old barred rock hen for cocci. It started with ver red bloody stool. The vet has me giving her Albon orally via syringe for 10 days. I have 2 more doses to give her.

    My question is should the stool look perfectly normal by now? It generally looks normal, but she has what looks like intestinal lining in her stool, but it's every morning, so I'm not sure if it's that or blood. (We'll be taking a fecal sample in after treatment.) Other than that she's active, eating, drinking and acting normal. I'm just worried the Albon might not totally clear this up.

    Any experience out there???? This obviously isn't an emergency, but on my mind ALL the time! Never thought I'd be so obsessive looking at chicken poo![​IMG]

    Thanks for any input!
     
  2. Jenski

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    I have not used Sulfa drugs for coccidiosis, and I can't remember what the charts say for treatment with that.

    When using the Amprolium, which is a thiamine (B vitamin) blocker, you can expect to see clearing of symptoms by Day 3. I would continue treating to at least Day 5.



    Hope that limited info helps. Please keep us posted. Good luck!


    Ed. to add - - looked up the Albon. It's a sulfa drug. Sorry, I have not used those yet! They may show similar signs, though. Perhaps someone else has more to add.
     
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  3. Glenda L Heywood

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    it is very necessary with coccidiosis to treat full time they tell you

    WITH THAT SAID
    here is what you could have been doing from day one of medication

    the medication some times causes bleeding
    and the stress from that is hard on the bird

    so do give the bird or birds this
    wet mash with Vit's

    3 tbsp of dry feed crumbles
    4-1/2 tbsp of milk any kind
    1 tbsp of yoguart
    1 tbsp of applesauce
    mix with vit's and add apple sauce on top of mix


    NOW THE IMPORTANT INGRIEDIENT FOR EACH CHICK FED
    and add 1- 1000 mg of Vit E by cutting the end off the vit E capsule for each chick fed this wet mash
    1 vit B complex crush and add to mix
    and 1 seliunium tablet crushed for each chick fed this wet mash
    putting it in the wet mash


    this for each chick enyour treating
    so for each chick use 2 tsp of mixture and 1-1000 mg of Vit E
    and 1 sleinium tablet crushed in the wet mash probiotic
    1 Vit B complex crush pill and add to the wet mash also
    twice a day for them till the manure is solid


    Feed what they will clean up in 20-30 minutes
    then clean wet feeders and restock dry crumbles

    do this twice a day for a week

    then quit the Vit E and selinium and Vit B complex
    make just the wet mash probiotic
    then once a week for life

    if not medicating the birds use
    Apple cider binegar in waterers
    do not use ACV with medication


    2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar per gallon of the chicken water so their gut flora wil be regulated
    they should have this at least 3-5 days a week

    the vit's are neccessary to clean up the damaged gut problem


    email me any questions so you are not confused
     
  4. meadrian

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    Excellent. We're on day 8. I've been feeding probiotic yogurt every evening and take the dish out after about 1/2 hour.

    I'll start on the twice a day mash as soon as I can get the Vit E and Selium. Should I continue this after treatment for awhile as well?

    Thank you!
     
  5. Glenda L Heywood

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    YES FOR A FULL WEEK FOR TWICE A DAY
    AND THEN TAKE AWAY THE VIT'S AND JUST FEED THE WET MASH PROBIOTIC ONCE A WEEK

    this should do the trick

    I was wondering why the vet figured it needed such severe treatment
    and not just corid or sulmet
    did he/she say?
    email me any questionsS
     
  6. meadrian

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    Thanks, Glenda. As this saga continues, I'll probably email you.

    The vet is an avian specialist who treats only birds that includes backyard poultry. My 8 week old was new to me and I caught it the 2nd day I had her. The case seemed severe. She said she had several strains of cocci. That would be my guess as to the meds.
     

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