Trying to judge air cell development on eggs with detatched membranes

Alright, I found it. The information is actually taken from two posts on a thread about a person who had a really bad shipped eggs experience:

Having eggs shipped through the mail is always a risk. Eggs were not intended to travel across the country. A buyer has to keep that in mind. With that said, its a good idea not to buy from a seller unless they have a stated policy on how they package eggs. That policy should include wrapping each egg individually in bubble wrap or some other shock-absorbing material. If your seller doesn't do that, request that they do before buying the eggs. I've sent dozen of eggs in the past two years, and I've only had one mention of a single egg that was cracked. If eggs are packaged correctly, they can be shipped with relative safety. But again, each egg should be wrapped with bubble wrap and there should be no space for the eggs to move within the box. It doesn't look like those eggs were wrapped individually in anyway... as such, there is no way they could have made it without some or most of the eggs being cracked. The seller obviously has limited experience shipping eggs. And should discontinue doing so until they learn how to package eggs correctly.

I've also bought quite few eggs in the past couple a years, and I've been fortunate to have a good experience with shipped eggs. I'm kinda picky who buy from though. I did receive one box of call duck eggs where the box had been dented in from either being dropped or hit. The eggs were packed very well and none were cracked; however, the air cells were no longer intact as a result of the box being dropped. As such, the eggs were not viable. This was because of postal service handling. I later bought more eggs from the same seller, explained to them what happened, and ask them to pack the eggs extra well. Those eggs were in fine condition when I received them. So again, sometimes even the best packaging job won't prevent eggs from being damaged in shipment.

To summarize: always be aware that you are taking a risk when you have eggs shipped, buy from reputable sellers, and inquire about the seller's egg packaging procedure if its not plainly stated. The following is from our web site:

"We have extremely high hatch rates from our eggs here on the farm. Nonetheless, we make no guarantee concerning the hatchability of shipped eggs! Keep in mind that once the eggs have been shipped, their handling is entirely out of our control. Moreover, we are unable to control any incubation variables that may adversely effect your hatch rate. Therefore we can not guarantee the hatchability of the eggs you recieve. With that in mind, we will make every reasonable effort to insure that the eggs you purchase from us arrive to you as expected. We wrap each egg in bubble wrap, then place the eggs in a styrofoam egg carton. This is then wrapped with more bubble wrap or other packing material. Your eggs will be shipped via USPS Priority Mail."

The key is wrapping each egg individually and making sure that there is no room for movement in the box. I wrap the eggs in bubble wrap, then put them into a halved egg cartons (holds 6 eggs). I close the carton and seal it with tape, then wrap the entire carton in bubble wrap. They then fit ideally into the 6x6x7 USPS Priority Box, which you can get for free at the post office. I then fill the remaining space with more bubble wrap, packing peanuts, or air pouches. By using that size box, you can put two half cartons in there (i.e. one dozen eggs). You can actually ship 6 bantam eggs in that size box via priority mail for about $5 dollars. That doesn't include any packing material expense... tape, bubble wrap, packing peanuts. etc.

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Yes, I'll keep you posted. I'll probably do a post since this is a relatively large batch hatching at the same time... the 2 from that one line and then the 16 from the other line. To answer your question, I honestly don't know if it matters... these two with the strange air cells will be a learning experience for me as well. I guess we're going to find out, huh?

In regard to your cochin roosters, you are correct... they are a pretty docile breed. There might be some minor bickering when first put together, but after that they should get their rank they sorted out. If you add hens, the same thing will take place. I'd say keep at least two or three hens. More would probably be better. At one time, I had three cochin roosters together with about 12 hens. The main roo and hens acted as coherent flock, with the other two younger roos just kind of tolerated and "there". I'm now back to one rooster and prefer it that way for now. Really, the breed is so calm that I doubt you'd have any major fighting issues once they have sorted out their hierarchy.
 
Yes, I'll keep you posted. I'll probably do a post since this is a relatively large batch hatching at the same time... the 2 from that one line and then the 16 from the other line. To answer your question, I honestly don't know if it matters... these two with the strange air cells will be a learning experience for me as well. I guess we're going to find out, huh?

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I guess so!

In regard to your cochin roosters, you are correct... they are a pretty docile breed. There might be some minor bickering when first put together, but after that they should get their rank they sorted out. If you add hens, the same thing will take place. I'd say keep at least two or three hens. More would probably be better. At one time, I had three cochin roosters together with about 12 hens. The main roo and hens acted as coherent flock, with the other two younger roos just kind of tolerated and "there". I'm now back to one rooster and prefer it that way for now. Really, the breed is so calm that I doubt you'd have any major fighting issues once they have sorted out their hierarchy.

Great! I may have to buy some eggs from you after the Calls hatch. Do you have any from your whites yet? And.....what do you do with your extra roos? I mean, I know what I do with my extra standard sized roos
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, but don't know if it is worth it with the bantams.​
 
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No, my whites are raising a brood of chicks right now. About four of my black cochin hens are determined to sit... persistent things. So as they hatch chicks I give them to the white hen. They should be back to laying in a couple weeks though. Interestingly, my white roo is the most diligent little dad I've seen. Him and the hen are in the brooder pen with about 8 chicks. Their shelter has a roost but neither one uses it. Instead, they sleep on the floor and the chicks brood under BOTH of them. When I toss out treats he always calls the chicks to the food. He seems to really enjoy looking after them.

I gave my two extra black roos to some friends of mine. Thing is they started bickering with their other roosters... going up against standards. I never had any problem with them, but I guess they felt they had something to prove on the new turf. My friends ended up selling them at a local livestock auction. And yes, I certainly prefer farm raised chicken, but the bantams aren't really worth it.
 
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Awww, they sound so sweet! My frizzle is a good boy. He is in with my juvinile Australorp pullets and is a perfect gentleman with them. I was worried that he might see them as "hens" instead of youngsters, but he is behaving himself. I didn't even mean to buy him. He was at the swap here in Oregon and the lady who owned him was set up right next to me. I just kept looking at him, and they kept bringing him out and he was a total lap chicken. LOL. I normally don't like the look of the frizzles, but to me he was exceptionaly pretty. So, by the end of the day I was sold and home he came. I'll check with you in a couple of weeks to see if your girls are willing to give up a few eggs.
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I gave my two extra black roos to some friends of mine. Thing is they started bickering with their other roosters... going up against standards. I never had any problem with them, but I guess they felt they had something to prove on the new turf. My friends ended up selling them at a local livestock auction. And yes, I certainly prefer farm raised chicken, but the bantams aren't really worth it.

That's what I thought. Just figured I'd ask because eventually there will be roos I don't want. LOL, I'll just hand them out at Christmas to unsuspecting relatives....in their stockings. LOL, Jk.​
 
You know in Germany all grilled chickens are called grilled roos (gegrilltes Hähnchen). They never call it a grilled chicken (Huhn). There must be a good reason for it.
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Thought I throw this in, since it give an interesting conversation piece. Do you think they are really all roos. Well we know they are not, but I think the naming came from the thought they you really don't need them, so lets eat them.

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Seems more morally justified I guess. LOL. My neighbor is going to give me a hen to process because she is no longer laying, my kids are gonna look at me like a crazed muderer for doing in a hen. LOL.
 
Well, it looks like my membranes have shrunk down enough to incorporate most of the detatched section, if that makes sense. They are beginning to look more normal. I've been up early turkey hunting last couple of days and am rummy.... LOL. We are on day 23, so not much further to go.
 
I've got one of my two hatching right now. The other one didnt make it.... died before hatching. The one that is hatching now if the smallest call duck egg I've ever seen to actually hatch. The duckling is going to be tiny!
 

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