I pulled some quotes, comments, etc. from the other thread and wanted to give my 2 cents here
Is there a danger that people will just accept the bots answer and the possibility for discussion and differing
Yes, for sure! It's very similar to the danger we currently experience when people (with good intentions) provide bad information on raising chickens, and then people follow-it without doing more detailed research.
IMO, the answer is to always have MORE diverse / varied sources of information, and develop the skills to analyze, interpret, evaluate, and summarize the information in a way that has the highest probability of the information being correct and helpful.
The current AIs don't have any true understanding of what they're saying, instead they essentially just predict which word comes next without regard for what's conceptually possible or impossible.
This is spot-on, and why there is a significant "
hallucination" problem. I'm confident that this will improve over time... how much and how fast is up for debate
A big part of this forum to me is the social aspect. Greeting people, sympathising with people, helping them by advising sure, but also being a community in other ways.
I think the bots will enhance the experience, not take away from it.
1000000% agree!!! Our intent is to provide yet another tool for peeps to use or not use. Just like people thought radio, then TV, then the internet would be the end of "human connection", each of them has improved it. Heck, some of my best friends are ones I met on the interwebs and BYC. YAY technology!!!
(that doesn't mean that AI is a 100% perfect panacea, but I also don't want to just assume adding an AI tool to BYC will destroy the wonderful benefits and social connections we have on BYC.)
TudyBOT is just another tool in the arsenal of knowledge. Sort of a compilation of the entire library without having to know WHICH book to look in for information.
As with any tool there is potential for misuse. That is why tools have warning labels.
I am confident that IF TudyBOT remains active there will be a warning/caution label included as text in EVERY response.
This can't be repeated enough
Please note that as with any member there IS an ignore feature in TudyBOTs profile. People CAN ignore TudyBOT.
This is a great idea! Have any of you members done this? Please let us know how the experience has been for you!
I personally do not trust AI enough to ask it a question about my hurt/sick chicken. I'd rather get answers from real people with actual experience. AI may have access to all the same information on the internet that those people have, but it doesn't, and can't, have hands-on experience.
However, I do think it's up to each member whether or not they tag Tudy for emergencies, or anything else for that matter.
Yes! A healthy distrust of information provided on the internet is a GREAT way to live (even before AI was invented)!!!
It's about the whole site being available to it.
Did you mean that you have issues with the bots having access to BYC? If so, this has nothing to do with us installing or not installing TudyBOT. BYC is publicly accessible, so until we put every post behind a login, robots from around the world are/will be constantly crawling/"spidering" everything posted.
If it is kept to one section, it is less likely to break down the community. I haven't read all the posts but the ones I read sounded like expansion to other areas was at least a potential goal.
Correct, I mentioned the reasons behind not having it contained to just one section here:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/tudybot-feedback-discussion-thread.1571925/post-26695289
Why was the trudybot pole thread closed?
So nobody could give thier own opinions?
Because our team didn't feel that a pole was appropriate in timing or helpful in what we're trying to accomplish. While we value feedback and take the health of the community as our #1 priority, at the end of the day our decisions are not up for a vote. If we followed that process over the years, BYC would have floundered years ago.
I choose to put my trust in the moderators and staff. If they considered TudyBOT eligible to be in a certain corner of the forum, I stand with their decision. If at any point do they decide that TudyBOT is not welcome, I stand by that decision too
That's appreciated! Nobody cares about and is as deeply invested in BYC's health as I am. I'm not about to do things that will have an overall negative short or long-term negative impact on our community.
Also, nothing is set in stone. If we turn it on and it's good, we can leave it. If it's on and it's bad, we turn it off. It's literally one easy slider button:
To add on to this, for the past several days, the Staff have been spiritedly debating, discussing and heatedly pounding cyber desks with fists in making sure this was something we wanted for the community. Don't think we aren't currently discussing the opinions you are expressing even now. We want what's best for the community overall, knowing there will be those that don't like it, AND THAT'S OK.
Like the old saying goes
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”
We do our best to balance that.
Yes, this
but to be fair it was her first day, I can see us eventually calming down and using her for mostly information. Plus everyone sometimes will forget about other threads for awhile even when they're in the RR threads.
