My friend doesn't like them either though. He says that their neck feels wrongMy girls and my boys are some of the friendlier birds I have. And believe it or not, they're still rather cold tolerant. We had a freeze that killed three perfectly healthy birds and caused many of my Pheonix hens combs (tiny combs, not large male combs) to fall off, and the only one that had problems was my males comb and toes. Other than that, they were more than content