Turkey Talk for 2014

[NewToFarming]

I'm so sorry.

With only one wing she probably couldn't get enough lift. Hope we're wrong. Coyotes suck!

Thank you! What age do they usually molt so they can hopefully grow their wing feathers back soon?

 

[fintuckyfarms]

My spoiled babies wanting their scrambles....

 

[Sydney Acres]

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I don't know the answer specifically for turkeys once they're full sized. When they're rapidly growing they molt out fairly regularly -- it seemed like every few months the babies were getting bigger wings that always initially seemed too big for their body, but they quickly grew into them. But when the growth rate slows, they don't molt as often. In most adult birds they replace 10-30% of the feathers with each molt. This way they can still fly while they're molting. But I think that many large birds, like Canadian Geese, are grounded for a short time during their yearly molt, so maybe turkeys also molt that severely. But essentially, when you trim a birds wings, the individual feathers do not grow longer with time, like hair does. The trimmed feather has to wait its turn to fall out and be replaced by a new, full length feather. In most birds, a properly trimmed wing (where only the outer 10 primary feathers have been trimmed to the level of the secondaries) will have all the primary feathers molted and replaced in 1-3 years after the trim, depending on the species, climate, and diet. Most light birds (under 1-2 lbs) will be able to fly when 3-5 feathers out of 10 have been replaced, and most heavy birds will need 7-8 feathers out of 10 to be full length before they can get loft.

 

[Sydney Acres]

My spoiled babies wanting their scrambles....

Very cute!!

 

[NewToFarming]

I don't know the answer specifically for turkeys once they're full sized. When they're rapidly growing they molt out fairly regularly -- it seemed like every few months the babies were getting bigger wings that always initially seemed too big for their body, but they quickly grew into them. But when the growth rate slows, they don't molt as often. In most adult birds they replace 10-30% of the feathers with each molt. This way they can still fly while they're molting. But I think that many large birds, like Canadian Geese, are grounded for a short time during their yearly molt, so maybe turkeys also molt that severely. But essentially, when you trim a birds wings, the individual feathers do not grow longer with time, like hair does. The trimmed feather has to wait its turn to fall out and be replaced by a new, full length feather. In most birds, a properly trimmed wing (where only the outer 10 primary feathers have been trimmed to the level of the secondaries) will have all the primary feathers molted and replaced in 1-3 years after the trim, depending on the species, climate, and diet. Most light birds (under 1-2 lbs) will be able to fly when 3-5 feathers out of 10 have been replaced, and most heavy birds will need 7-8 feathers out of 10 to be full length before they can get loft.

Thank you! Looks like it could be a while until the grow back fully. The boy had both of his wings clipped so he really can't get any lift whatsoever.

 

[chickadoodles]

My spoiled babies wanting their scrambles....

They are so cute!

 

[NewToFarming]

They are so cute!

X2

 

[Momhunter]

I'm very frustrated and need to vent to those that will under stand!! I ordered some Bourbon Red eggs from EBay. They were advertised as NPIP. The seller shipped them in a grocery store 18 ct large egg carton placed in a box with crumpled newspaper. AND charged a big shipping fee. The eggs bumped against each other in the carton that was moving in the box. So no surprise that 4 eggs were cracked.
The seller refused to mail me his NPIP certification paper, which I asked for multiple times along with a refund for the broken eggs, that were broken due to his pathetic packing. Took the case to eBay as "item not as described" because of him not giving his NPIP info. The seller then told me to send all of the eggs back, 10 of which have been in an incubator for 10 days!! So he wants me to kill the poults and return the eggs. Then to make matters worse eBay sides with him because "the item can not be returned because it is no longer in the same condition as when delivered". Very frustrated. I'm going to contact my regional state poultry inspector next and see who I need to talk to about him selling and shipping across state lines presenting them as NPIP while I assume he isn't. Don't know what else I can do, but I am Very Aggravated.

 

[Momhunter]

I forgot to add that the seller now has bourbon red and Narrgan eggs advertised but dropped his price less than half and no longer claims NPIP.

 

[JWEBB]

I'm very frustrated and need to vent to those that will under stand!! I ordered some Bourbon Red eggs from EBay. They were advertised as NPIP. The seller shipped them in a grocery store 18 ct large egg carton placed in a box with crumpled newspaper. AND charged a big shipping fee. The eggs bumped against each other in the carton that was moving in the box. So no surprise that 4 eggs were cracked.
The seller refused to mail me his NPIP certification paper, which I asked for multiple times along with a refund for the broken eggs, that were broken due to his pathetic packing. Took the case to eBay as "item not as described" because of him not giving his NPIP info. The seller then told me to send all of the eggs back, 10 of which have been in an incubator for 10 days!! So he wants me to kill the poults and return the eggs. Then to make matters worse eBay sides with him because "the item can not be returned because it is no longer in the same condition as when delivered". Very frustrated. I'm going to contact my regional state poultry inspector next and see who I need to talk to about him selling and shipping across state lines presenting them as NPIP while I assume he isn't. Don't know what else I can do, but I am Very Aggravated.

Ebay can be SO frustrating! that is the most assinine return policy in my opinion. I have recevied eggs packed like you describe but the difference is the eggs were wrapped in bubble wrap then put in the egg carton. I'm so sorry this happened to you. The seller should send a copy of their NPIP with every sale. Of course they could be lying and don't have NPIP would not be the first time.
I sell on ebay and sold a gold chain. The buyer decided it was not like the picture and wanted to return it. Fine with me I can resell it send it back I will refund you I said. It was a box chain. When I got it back it was in a ball of knots thrown in the box. It kinked. Its still sitting here knotted. Screw it. I had to refund them even though they damaged the item before returning..

Since the person would not provide the NPIP info to you, you can also report them to the state program. You should have their name from the paypal transaction. Ebay also told me WWW.IC3.GOV is where they suggest reporting internet fraud. Which happens a lot on ebay. Sometimes it just makes you feel better about getting bent over.

I bet they aren't claiming NPIP now because most likely they are not!